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    Default Are you multi talented?

    I feel most NF and NTs I encounter are because of their cross examination and utility of their N functions. But also, who isn't multi-talented these days with the social-economics matrix and our staggering population numbers to make ourselves more useful in the workforce. I suppose this begs another question, if we are truly under the illusion of extended free time or the narcissist complex?
    It could just be relevant to myself...
    though our multi-talents does not invariably mean we are exceptional at all that interests us. On that account, what is it that you stubbornly use your time doing, knowing you're not expecting recognition or nobel peace prize for it?

    I'll be honest.
    I can sing and play guitar, but I have yet to compose my own song.
    I can skateboard, but I can't do any tricks.
    I can dance to many different genres, and in front of large audiences; it's just me and the music. But for the love of me, following choreography is too onerous.
    In the same aspect, I model without any direction, contorting my figure to find emotion. But I'm no longer industry standard thin (not that it matters except no more paid gigs).
    I design, paint and draw with accuracy, but I'm intensely slow about it.

    So to save myself from an agonizing standard, having creative or physical outlets help me escape the boring work-concentrated duties. What are some of yours?
    Also, how much creativity do you apply to your work? And is it more or less motivating?

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    From what I have seen in person with NTs or NFs is that most are Jack of all trades but masters of none, just as you escribed your talents.

    We tend to go for the more versitile as opposed to the more mission specific.

    I understand computers but I can't code.
    I'm always in great shape but I'm not good at anything specific, unless doing pullups is grand?

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    ..Hard for me to distinguish inborn talent from developed skill..

    I definitely relate to the Jack-of-all-trades description. I can sing, act, write, draw [only terrible cartoon-type things], make clothes, memorize long sets of numbers (hide your credit cards!), or entire scenes from plays, um... do minor home & auto repair via guesswork. None of these things are perfect or objectively well-developed or useful, by any means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LucidLegend1984 View Post
    From what I have seen in person with NTs or NFs is that most are Jack of all trades but masters of none, just as you escribed your talents.
    That's me. I guess it's also true (to a degree) of high profile intuitive types like Brian Eno and Nick Cave who seem to do all sorts of things in their careers.

    I personally make music of many different styles, play darts a bit, write short stories, play Football Manager a lot, I used to draw when I was young but don't any more, I'm in to lucid dreaming; am I great at any of these? No way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexicon View Post
    memorize long sets of numbers (hide your credit cards!),
    Heh, this is fun, I memorized all of the numbers on my debit card within a week or so of getting it. (Without even trying, I just ended up remembering it after using it a couple times.)

    But yeah, I'm another jack of all trades, master of none. Is it really an NF/NT thing though? I always thought it was semi normal to have varied interests without a whole lot of depth into any of them.

    Anyways, uh...

    I can draw fairly well, but I'm no artist. (My drawings look like a 5 year old did them relative to some of the drawings I've seen by others on this forum.)
    I know how to do some stuff on the guitar, but actually playing something in a band is waaay out of my reach.
    I like to write, but my stories never get finished.
    ...I guess there is more, but I can't be bothered to think anymore, I'm supposed to be doing homework right now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LucidLegend1984 View Post
    From what I have seen in person with NTs or NFs is that most are Jack of all trades but masters of none, just as you escribed your talents.
    That describes me very well, both in my private life and my professional life... except for those few areas where because of some kind of external structure/pressure I was forced to practice a particular skill repeatedly. in those few areas of knowledge/skill, I became more of a specialist.

    But typically I have a fast learning curve for the bulk of a skill, then never practice it enough to fine-tune it to become a master. I focus more on integration of various disciplines and how knowledge genres interface with each other -- the relationship between the data vs the data itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LucidLegend1984
    I'm always in great shape but I'm not good at anything specific, unless doing pullups is grand?
    I suppose I shouldn't use the term multi-talented since there are skills we directly maximize. Of course being in shape is alloted time out of the day to become.. superhuman (why else?).

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    Is it really an NF/NT thing though?
    I'd be inclined to believe so. Sensors have a focused and exceptional ability to hone in one a particular skill, understanding the mechanics of it in detail and with no surprise, they become experts at it. Some of them reproduce very detailed and composed works of art. iNtuitives probably see things in a dream-like sequence, details are not so important as to the grand feeling or overall message itself. Less repetition, more innovation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    But typically I have a fast learning curve for the bulk of a skill, then never practice it enough to fine-tune it to become a master. I focus more on integration of various disciplines and how knowledge genres interface with each other -- the relationship between the data vs the data itself.
    Sometimes I feel it's this thinking that leads me to control issues... you have to admit, it's a lot of work to handle integrations of different mediums because it requires a physical or mental climb, it's a heavy and lame standard of harnessing all genres at once. How fast could I really go? If I were to use an example of a director, a director needs the help of production artists, technicians, actors, stylists, screenwriter, legal counsel, and so on.
    I need to hone my skills around one or two things and become really good at it, then look for a specialized skill from someone who I can form the perfect "marriage" with. I feel like many of us (Ns especially) like to wear different hats when there's always been one hat that suited our face this entire time.

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    Sensors aren't necessarily more detailed with their skills. ESPs especially are attracted to novelty and new opportunities that take them elsewhere all the time. An ISP can find enjoyment in one activity and have it always be "fresh" to them, but an ESP is not the same.

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    You're describing Ne versus Si, not necessarily N vs. S.

    Be careful with that, Si types can delve very deeply into one specialized area because of their Si linear connections, preferring to collect every single fact and facet of one subject.

    However, I will admit to being a major fact collector, and I will obsess about something until I understand it. I tend to want to be the best at what I'm doing, even as an exotic dancer, I was secretly a bit proud when girls started copying my moves.

    I grew up dancing, singing, acting in plays, doing creative writing, and making art projects. I found that art was not my strongest skill, and my ISFJ sister is pretty much the artist in the family, and she seems very "focused" in the way Si types are - because that's what you're describing, Si types, and even more specifically Si doms.

    I guess I can kind of relate to the sensor description, though, because I will pick certain things and basically be obsessed with that thing, though. History, literature, adult entertainment (I tried nearly every area of it that was legal), writing, and cooking.

    I'm actually not sure why I didn't realize I was a sensor in the first place because I start with facts and move to theory. My mom calls me the walking encyclopedia and I do move from facts/experiences to a holistic picture (Se ---> Ni).

    I read in an article called "MBTI in Education" that ESxx types actually like history because it combines fact collecting with human events. I find this interesting because I like history and human culture, and Jung called the ES(F) type the Cultural Realist.

    This totally contradicts the prejudice that some have, though, that NFs are more interested in human cultures than SF types.

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