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[MBTI General] Analysis: The "Hate an NF" threads

Carebear

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Interesting observation I did today at personalitypage.com -> Personal Growt section:

There is a paragraph more in the F prefaces to "Potential problem areas" than in the T versions: For instance:
INFP:
Potential Problem Areas

With any gift of strength, there is an associated weakness. Without "bad", there would be no "good". Without "difficult", there would be no "easy". We value our strengths, but we often curse and ignore our weaknesses. To grow as a person and get what we want out of life, we must not only capitalize upon our strengths, but also face our weaknesses and deal with them. That means taking a hard look at our personality type's potential problem areas.

INFPs are rare, intelligent, creative beings with many special gifts. I would like for the INFP to keep in mind some of the many positive things associated with being an INFP as they read some of this more negative material. Also remember that the weaknesses associated with being an INFP are natural to your type. Although it may be depressing to read about your type's weaknesses, please remember that we offer this information to enact positive change. We want people to grow into their own potential, and to live happy and successful lives.

Most of the weaker characteristics that are found in INFPs are due to their dominant Feeling function overshadowing the rest of their personality. When the dominant function of Introverted Feeling overshadows everything else, the INFP can't use Extraverted iNtuition to take in information in a truly objective fashion. In such cases, an INFP may show some or all of the following weaknesses in varying degrees:

INTP:
Potential Problem Areas

With any gift of strength, there is an associated weakness. Without "bad", there would be no "good". Without "difficult", there would be no "easy". We value our strengths, but we often curse and ignore our weaknesses. To grow as a person and get what we want out of life, we must not only capitalize upon our strengths, but also face our weaknesses and deal with them. That means taking a hard look at our personality type's potential problem areas.

Most of the weaker characteristics that are found in INTPs are due to their dominant function of Introverted Thinking overtaking the personality to the point that all of the other functions exist merely to serve the purposes of Introverted Thinking. In such cases, an INTP may show some or all of the following weaknesses in varying degrees:

I found it hilarious for some reason. The person writing it thinking: "Damn, I guess I have to remind them of some of the positive shit I told them if I want to get them to read on. Blasted Fs!" While writing for the Ts it's simply: "Ok, we're all different, yada yada yada, this is the way you should shape up".
 

Ender

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Yeah patronizing explanations basically.
 

Tigerlily

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Amusing thread idea. ;) If someone doesn't like me because I'm an "NF", that would be fine as I don't often like most people so the feeling would be mutual.
 

anii

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Do all the types have 'hate' threads here?
 

nightning

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I don't think there are ones for the SFs... but they're rarely talked about on threads.
 

digesthisickness

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Interesting observation I did today at personalitypage.com -> Personal Growt section:

There is a paragraph more in the F prefaces to "Potential problem areas" than in the T versions: For instance:
INFP:


INTP:


I found it hilarious for some reason. The person writing it thinking: "Damn, I guess I have to remind them of some of the positive shit I told them if I want to get them to read on. Blasted Fs!" While writing for the Ts it's simply: "Ok, we're all different, yada yada yada, this is the way you should shape up".

wow. it actually came right out and said so.

"INFPs are rare, intelligent, creative beings with many special gifts. I would like for the INFP to keep in mind some of the many positive things associated with being an INFP as they read some of this more negative material. Also remember that the weaknesses associated with being an INFP are natural to your type. Although it may be depressing to read about your type's weaknesses, please remember that we offer this information to enact positive change. We want people to grow into their own potential, and to live happy and successful lives."

he/she may as well have come right out and said, "don't slit your wrists! you're a wonderful, unique, beautiful, special person and i wouldn't say this if i didn't have to... since knowing you, you'd complain about being left out."

pretty insulting. you guys should get together and write him a letter telling him you don't take things personally.
 

Carebear

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pretty insulting. you guys should get together and write him a letter telling him you don't take things personally.

Hahaha! Yes, that'd show them! "I hereby write you this lengthy, stiff letter to show you I don't care!"

It's the same for all the Fs btw, not just INFPs. An extra paragraph saying "don't slit your wrists". I find it hilarious.
 

digesthisickness

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Hahaha! Yes, that'd show them! "I hereby write you this lengthy, stiff letter to show you I don't care!"

It's the same for all the Fs btw, not just INFPs. An extra paragraph saying "don't slit your wrists". I find it hilarious.

seriously? my god. haha.

i'm surprised they risked saying the word, "weakness", and didn't say, "Although it may be depressing to read about your type's less strong strengths..." instead.
 

sriv

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You P's irritate [piss] me [off]. Always worrying HOW.

That is how I would say it so it still applies.
 

heart

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I know! They take everything seriously EVEN though my signature specifically tells them not to.

Nobody takes anything you say personally because you already told us you don't have personal feelings. I think you are just disappointed that no one did actually take you personally. ;)



I think Protean is way off base here. I agreed with her about her boss, that her boss doesn't communicate and then blows up when her wants are not fulfilled, I said yes she needs more Te and she cannot expect people to be mind readers and yet here Proteean is complaining that INFP did nothing but defend their type... Some people are never happy.

Protean was the only one to bring up a valid, clearly expressed complain about INFP. There wasn't anything else worthy of being agreed with or defended in the rest of the thread as far as I was concerned.

EDIT: Haphazard had a good point about INFP getting Te in debates. But other than that it was all too vague or petty to really have an opinion one way or the other about. Just Shiv trying to get NF attention and since nothing of great importance was being said, why not indulge him if that's what he wants?

If Protean wanted to set the ground rules how the INFP conducted themselves in their own "why do you hate an INFP" thread, then she should have been the one to start it and have spelled those rules out clearly to begin with. It is ridiculous to complain now "We ENFJ played by these unspoken rules and you should have too and now I am upset!"
 

digesthisickness

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You P's irritate [piss] me [off]. Always worrying HOW.

That is how I would say it so it still applies.

we aren't "worrying", we're "thinking". meaning, sometimes the HOW isn't worth contemplating.

for instance, in this context, "how sriv would say it" doesn't apply, make a difference, or solve anything.
 

sriv

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Nobody takes anything you say personally because you already told us you don't have personal feelings. I think you are just disappointed that no one did actually take you personally. ;)

EDIT: Haphazard had a good point about INFP getting Te in debates. But other than that it was all too vague or petty to really have an opinion one way or the other about. Just Shiv trying to get NF attention and since nothing of great importance was being said, why not indulge him if that's what he wants?

Damn heart. You really know how not to get overdefensive. You make for a good spar.
The only good thing that was made was by me:
They are the kind of type you cannot hate, but you would never actually want to be.
 

heart

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shiv said:
They are the kind of type you cannot hate, but you would never actually want to be.

This is the vague kind of a thing that I am talking about. There is no explict complaint here. It is not even worthy of considering. This was the typical comment made in the first "hate an INFP" thread.
 

disregard

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I've got to be an INFP, because I don't like having "Hate an ____" threads.
 

Haphazard

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INFPs may be sensitive and whatnot, but the main issue I see is getting THE LECTURE OF MORAL RECTITUDE (tm) from them, or really, anybody with strong Fi. Even if their opinion on the matter seems highly subjective, they will go ahead and steamroller you with their words. All you can do is stand back and cower until it's over, even if no matter what they say you may not agree. Afterwards, you just don't fucking say anything about your dissent for fear of THE LECTURE OF MORAL RECTITUDE (tm) again. This has happened to me several times -- I have a nasty habit of getting lectured on F-concentrated topics.

Fe is less frightening in concentrated forms and more of a nuisance. Fi though... whew!
 
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