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    Quote Originally Posted by FFF View Post
    I was thinking about how much I like NF's, especially ENFJ and INFJ types (ones with Fe), because I really like a girl who is empathetic and nurturing. I guess I never really thought much about how others might not be interested in that at all. I also realized that I have no idea why someone would be romantically interested in an NT, with the exception of girls liking ENTJ's.
    I can be very empathetic and nurturing. However, I can also be cold and insensitive. It's just not my preferred mode of decision making.


    I'd break it down like this:

    ENTJ - some people would like their leadership, their focus, their competence, and possibly even their money

    INTJ - some people would like their intelligence, their wit, and they're good at many things.

    ENTP - they can be funny and good sources of information to analyze, but it's INTP's who really like analyzing info all day.

    INTP - they can be really unusual and funny, and they are very low maintenance and are often okay staring at the ceiling or the wall for hours depending on which comfortable position they happen to be in, although, they'd rather be reading a book, playing a video game, watching a video, or surfing the web. A lack of hygiene and/or grooming and a lack of social interactions, or at least comfortable, high quality social interactions, can help ensure that your INTP will be yours exclusively.

    All of that stuff sounds so cold and unappealing to me, and I can't understand why somebody would want to be in a relationship for any of that without it being based in fear or compromise.
    Lol, all that INTP stuff applies to me perfectly. Minus the lack of hygiene. Grooming? Overrated

    You are simplifying too much.

    INTPs can be very socially adept. Some of the sexiest men I have ever met/seen are INTPs. They're just different, like most intuitives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xenaprincess View Post
    For some reason, I've wound up being friends with NT people, and feeling more comfortable with them, than F people. I think this is because my F is really internalized. I moan and groan on occasion, but only a lucky few get to hear my scathing thoughts
    Right there with ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFF View Post
    INTP - they can be really unusual and funny, and they are very low maintenance and are often okay staring at the ceiling or the wall for hours depending on which comfortable position they happen to be in, although, they'd rather be reading a book, playing a video game, watching a video, or surfing the web. A lack of hygiene and/or grooming and a lack of social interactions, or at least comfortable, high quality social interactions, can help ensure that your INTP will be yours exclusively.

    All of that stuff sounds so cold and unappealing to me, and I can't understand why somebody would want to be in a relationship for any of that without it being based in fear or compromise.
    Huh...what about that is cold and unappealing? What would a warm, appealing person be like/do with their time?

    To me that sounds like a lot of fun but, then again, I tend to be attracted to IxTPs in general for how low-maintenance they are (being low maintenance, myself).

    And yeah, you're oversimplifying things. We're not 2-dimensional creatures. Plenty of NTs are capable of deep feeling and compassion and plenty of NFs are adept at deductive reasoning and logic. You lock into where those things overlap and hey, you've got compatibility.

    Not just fear and compromise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegorystory View Post
    Plenty of NTs are capable of deep feeling and compassion and plenty of NFs are adept at deductive reasoning and logic. You lock into where those things overlap and hey, you've got compatibility.

    Not just fear and compromise.
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    I'm new here but couldn't help responding.

    As an NF in a relationship with an xNTP.
    There's a lot of good: He can stop me on my tracks when my brain starts to run off into a spider wed of imaginary worries and speculation and show me a more rational perspective. He's incredibly witty and funny, and on a good day our unique insanities come together to form great humorous verbal play. Being very compassionate myself, I can be there to calm him down and encourage him to see the positive side of things when the load of his never-ending projects becomes too stressful. We both love adventure and learning new things.

    But there are certain areas where we recently have struggled so much, that at times it seems hopeless:
    1) He has a hard time dealing with my scatter-brainedness, whimsicalness and unpredictability. These, combined with the fact that being sometimes not-so-good at talking about my needs openly makes me seem very inconsistent to him.
    2) I have a hard time dealing with his strict opinions, his way of dismissing anything not of interest to him, and then dwelling on that which is of his interest 24/7 — and seemingly forgetting that I am a person with interests, needs and aspirations as well.

    But here's the biggie:
    3) He speaks his mind readily and he is especially quick to judge, when he thinks something is WRONG. When it's about someone or something else, I can mostly respond with understanding (but I will have to bite my tongue a lot not to step up to defend the criticized and offer a positive outlook). However, living together with someone in a close relationship, the one who does wrong, every once in a while, ends up being ME.

    And then I want to run. I can take criticism when it's presented calmly and constructively. But his is full of complaint and judgement. Combined with the fact that he is not very verbal about complimenting me, the majority of his "assessments" of me end up being negative — and this is where we clash. Like a text-book INFP/J, I am adverse to conflict and my response is to first try to ignore, and when that fails fight back with all my irrationality. The result is never pretty. :P

    We are both trying to learn each other's ways and the most important accommodations seem to be
    1) for me to calm down, breathe, and remember that criticism doesn't mean I'm a bad person or that the criticizer hates me AND when speaking about my own feelings to try to be clear and concise so his brain can process them.
    2) for him to tone down to blame and judge-mentality and try to add some compliment into his complaints, so the negativity won't grow too strong AND instead of advice and rational reasoning, when I have feelings to share with him, to offer me acceptance and understanding.

    Well, it's a work-in-progress. We both have some growing up to do.

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    I'm an INFJ and I've yet to find an INTP that has what it takes

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarsPer View Post
    I'm an INFJ and I've yet to find an INTP that has what it takes
    Nobody has everything it takes. That's where love comes in. Get used to disappointment.
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    For whatever reason, I find the combination of Ti and Ne incredibly sexy… cool confidence, fuck the world independence, sharp wit, playfulness, endless spiraling discussions… yeah I pretty much melt.
    Also (at least from my experience) there is an amazing amount of passion when they're in love, which is pretty overwhelming to find under the chillness. (Did I mention, fantastic hands? Am I rambling? I’ll stop now.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by raindancing View Post
    For whatever reason, I find the combination of Ti and Ne incredibly sexy… cool confidence, fuck the world independence, sharp wit, playfulness, endless spiraling discussions… yeah I pretty much melt.
    Also (at least from my experience) there is an amazing amount of passion when they're in love, which is pretty overwhelming to find under the chillness. (Did I mention, fantastic hands? Am I rambling? I’ll stop now.)
    I can pretty much deliver everything you said. Glad to hear someone likes it, and an INFP at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegorystory View Post
    Plenty of NTs are capable of deep feeling and compassion and plenty of NFs are adept at deductive reasoning and logic. You lock into where those things overlap and hey, you've got compatibility.

    Not just fear and compromise.


    I can attest! I'm dating a clearly-expressed ENTP and I'm your typical NF idealist, but it works well because, at the heart of it, we're two thinking people with tons of feelings. His are a little harder to access, and he often seems unaware of 'em, but they are _every bit_ as strong as mine. By the same coin, I may not make my big decisions based on his style of calm, cool analysis, but I can hold my own in an intellectual debate, and we spend loads of time verbally sparring, just for fun. As in everything, your mileage may vary.

    Also, I can attest to the sexiness of the INTP! One of the most talented kids in my grad program was an INTP (took the test and everything), and eeeeeverybody wanted him, NF and otherwise. He was so creative and intelligent and witty and iconoclastic. These traits, which are highly highly valued in my field, seemed to give him confidence too. It was almost intimidating. Anyways, yes. Appealing.

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