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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatar7 View Post
    I bequeath to you the keys of authority over this dread uhh I mean thread.


    Step one: this thread.
    Step two: earth
    Step three: the multiverses

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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadeco View Post
    And, I will definitely throw myself out there as being low in the rankings of empathetic NF's!!
    One of the smartest ones though.

    I have mixed opinions:
    On one hand, I don't think it's too far fetched to recognize people you've only talked to online as empathic.
    Otoh, I think this is supposed to be a fun thread. No one ever stated ''NFs are the most emphatic''.
    I bet if the thread subject was ''Who's The Most Empathic SJ On TC?'' it would be a pretty smooth thread.

    Also, to be honest, it's not a trait I admire much.
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    This thread turned so ugly so quick. *licks lips*

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    I would say @Evan.

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    I would also like to vote for @Giggly because she's a sweetie.

    (I'm magnamonius like that and this is how you win "empathy" awards or trophies or whatever.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by YWIR View Post
    This thread turned so ugly so quick. *licks lips*
    *helps*
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    Viewing this thread has me in two minds
    One side says we shouldn't turn things into popularity contests
    The other says don't be so uptight and just have some fun
    Each has its merits

    For what it's worth, I do agree that male NFs have more trouble showing their empathy
    Often it will be considered a sign of weakness
    Rarely will it be viewed positively

    My final thoughts :
    Each and every NF displays empathy in their own way so why rank them?
    4w5, Fi>Ne>Ti>Si>Ni>Fe>Te>Se, sp > so > sx

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    Quote Originally Posted by William K View Post
    Viewing this thread has me in two minds
    One side says we shouldn't turn things into popularity contests
    The other says don't be so uptight and just have some fun
    Each has its merits

    For what it's worth, I do agree that male NFs have more trouble showing their empathy
    Often it will be considered a sign of weakness
    Rarely will it be viewed positively

    My final thoughts :
    Each and every NF displays empathy in their own way so why rank them?
    Yeah, I'm not quite sure where ranking per se would be a very altruistic idea in any sense.
    "..And the eight and final rule: If this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight."
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    I vote in everyone. I'm so generous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsune413 View Post
    I should probably know better than to use a word like 'fight' or 'argue' on the internet. I had simply intended to empathize with Avatar's response to Iwakar's comments. Or perhaps simply to explain it. It is a fault of character to need to respond to a percieved slight. Another to feel my rights were violated when admonished and to respond with intuition as to why they were.

    (etc)




    Filtering information through your own subjective emotional lens can lead to unnecessary hurt feelings..

    I was merely making a humorous remark.
    That was one of many possible motivations for posting [a ridiculous, albeit applicable COMIC, mind you], as I did. Instead of examine that possibilty, you chose to draw your own conclusions without getting feedback. Your baseless conclusions allowed you to place yourself in a victim role, shifting the emotional responsibility toward others, who, as you chose to perceive, hurt and alienated you. But ey, you said it yourself, interpreting without sufficient feedback was a mistake.

    As a result of that mistake, you triggered your own negative emotional response.
    People often inadvertently isolate themselves, that way.

    Being aware of your own ''faults'' - as you put it- (which I don't really think of as ''faults;'' they're simply universally ''human'' cognitive blind spots that none of us are exempt from experiencing) is beneficial. Self awareness generally is, unless you just stop there. It's important to take measures/find ways to apply that knowledge in circumstances such as these...



    You PMed me earlier today about my intentions for posting; often I'll make a post and not check back for a day or so because of other life BS that requires my attention. Many people here don't log in daily, or spend a lot of time on. Waiting a bit for a response (c'mon--- at least like, a day? is that unreasonable? ), or perhaps getting some clear indication that I was, in fact, ignoring your PM altogether, might've been helpful.

    We don't know eachother, so why assume by default that you're being attacked, when there are plenty of other possibilities to explore?

    Perhaps you were somewhat emotionally on guard because you were in the midst of a debate- as debates can easily become emotionally charged for NFs- and that's why you were somewhat quick to assume a stranger must be attacking you, not simply making a joke to put this into perspective. Again, I don't know you, so I can't conclude why you settled on the conclusions you did, one way or the other. Hopefully none of this is coming off as chastising or condescending; I'm sharing my thoughts to try to understand/communicate/get on the same page.

    Over the past several years or so, I sort of realized I'd save myself a lot of unnecessary hurt or anxiety in my interactions with people by trying not to just examine their motivations, but also taking a moment to examine my own expectations of others [like, for example, if our roles were reversed- why I may have expected a response sooner than a total stranger could offer, or why my default emotional response was to feel attacked/slighted.] in a given situation.

    Sometimes my general emotional state at the time, or my own personal feelings associated with a topic, or just simply feeling confused, created a blind spot/bias in my perception and ultimately clouded my judgement. On many occasions, we can upset ourselves by overlooking all of this useful, accessible information.

    Regardless of my own intentions, or your reasoning, it's always somewhat distressing to me if I'm a factor in a situation that has upset someone.. a silly picture doesn't seem worth ''taking a break'' from a forum you may have been enjoying before.

    For the record, I derive no joy or amusement from creating tension or inflicting pain on others, but I don't expect you to know that, either. So to wrap up this unexpectedly lengthy post: I made a simple joke, without an ounce of hostility toward you in my mind. Hell, my own response could even be considered related to the 'someone's WRONG on the internet' comic!

    I hope this clears things up a little.
    Take care.
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