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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    perhaps you're right
    @BlackCat and I were discussing this on vent one night. Definitely think 9w8s are more likely to be ISFPs and 9w1s INFPs.

    Great list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Kross View Post
    Actually I think for INFP it's more like this:

    4w5
    9w1
    5w4
    6w5

    Beyond these, I would start to doubt they were an INFP.

    And I don't think 9w8 fits INFPs at all. It's more of a XSTP thing.
    This looks about right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mia_infp View Post
    This looks about right.
    Yeah, I agree. I need to make my own type correlation chart, I was planning on doing that tonight and posting it in the enneagram section.
    () 9w8-3w4-7w6 tritype.

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    This is a list made based on Celeritytypes, taking in account only thoeses whom I knew the enneatype with certainty:

    INFJ
    1w9 sp/sx George Harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecb1Fc49IDA
    1w9 so/sp Noam Chomsky http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/361
    1w9 so/sx Osama Bin Laden http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R-4GH0PXDc
    1w9 sx/so Imam Khomeini http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AgW_9bijzE
    1w2 sp/so Ron Paul http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCiTykzX3ek
    1w2 sx/so Gandhi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q3xIfoar8g
    4w3 so/sx Cate Blanchett http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJvYyAxpmm4
    4w5 so/sp Marylin Manson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3ue6JLPQLA
    4w5 so/sp Iris Murdoch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-9fsZW_OZI
    5w4 so/sx Simone de Beauvoir http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHVTKy1cmuc
    5w4 sx/sp Tilda Swinton http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-OWANK5lrQ
    5w6 sx/so Leon Trotsky http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m_OXH7n0Rw
    6w5 so/sx Edward Norton http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/1870
    6w5 sx/sp Michelle Pfeiffer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvt_yLUV95U
    6w5 sx/so Adolf Hitler http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbF0JQgi7_U
    9w1 sx/sp Carl Jung http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOxlZm2AU4o

    ENFJ
    1w9 so/sp Nelson Mandela http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s8xkjG8bx4
    1w9 so/sx Charlie Rose http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E6E9q8Jebw
    1w2 so/sx John Paul II http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaBRBiaXHL8
    3w2 sp/so Joe Biden http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyln0S-3Y-s
    3w2 so/sp Tony Blair http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb3kZLzH3FA
    3w2 so/sx Reese Witherspoon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npVA_PAxhqI
    3w2 sx/sp Denzel Washington http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/2222
    3w4 so/sp Nigella Lawson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgLzkEog2nI
    3w4 so/sp Neil DeGrasse Tyson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaW4Ol3_M1o
    3w4 so/sx Oprah Winfrey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_MsmbERGmg
    7w6 so/sx Kate Winslet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO96WdyTn1g
    7w6 sx/so Bono http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYoRLW2PkgA
    8w7 so/sp Mikhail Gorbachev http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4wbMKh-eGo
    8w9 sx/so Martin Luther King http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VJl9IJ3PlI
    9w8 so/sx Ronald Reagan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxXYzaWmQkA
    9w1 sp/so Michael Moore http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QFD61O-EKiE
    9w1 sp/sx James Lipton http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D8QaYlxxVk

    INFP
    3w4 so/sx Andy Warhol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESGrKwIdb8A
    3w4 so/sx Robert Pattinson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiF0vNHe4vM
    3w4 sx/so Tori Amos http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ua44cu30mnc
    4w3 sp/so Morrissey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-lvhE-IlDQ
    4w3 so/sx Jarvis Cocker http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6q37MBeCHM
    4w3 sx/so Fiona Apple http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNlVPl73rdQ
    4w5 sp/sx Sylvia Plath (voice only) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esBLxyTFDxE
    4w5 so/sp Virginia Woolf (voice only) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8czs8v6PuI
    4w5 sx/sp Johnny Depp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci2cXvYRtH0
    5w4 sp/sx Ian Curtis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWwclXfQQdY
    5w4 sp/sx David Lynch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPc1N7kf_AQ
    5w4 sp/sx Thom Yorke http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWOKtktYfP0
    5w4 so/sx Tim Burton http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8x7Tuvd2BE
    5w4 so/sx Vladimir Nabokov http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-wcB4RPasE
    5w4 sx/sp Kurt Cobain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqzn9F0GI1o
    5w4 sx/sp Bjork http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlzixwWyrwU
    5w4 sx/so John Lennon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwJj2efChFk
    5w6 so/sp Simon Baron-Cohen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zNxEz4zGTY
    7w8 sx/sp Jim Morrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tsGHkHYiKA
    9w8 sx/sp Nicholas Cage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNhKSJH-yJA
    9w1 sx/sp J K Rowling http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JOxJ3j_58EI

    ENFP
    1w2 sp/sx Ralph Nader http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzUrUNhIj4c
    1w2 so/sp Arianna Huffington http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow10LAXaJ30
    1w2 so/sp Rachel Maddow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MVrTqxpHDo
    1w2 so/sx Jerry Seinfeld http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzwlxqkAPmA
    3w2 sx/sp Sharon Stone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chw2L5pLF0A
    3w4 so/sx Sarah Michelle Gellar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0w93zN7_1M
    5w6 sp/so Umberto Eco http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekDdvGXcw4w
    6w5 sp/sx Maureen Dowd http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/647
    6w5 sp/sx Julian Assange http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6mcSXge4Qo
    6w7 so/sp Ellen DeGeneres http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA1vszqy-cY
    6w7 so/sp Katie Couric http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loZJpWEMJAE
    6w7 sx/sp Jack White http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae8EsjeYiKg
    7w6 so/sx Robin Williams http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/3737
    8w9 sp/so Fidel Castro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbUgUJuI6Ak
    9w8 so/sx Sandra Bullock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeCtY0dNJtk


    According to this:

    Top 5 INFJ:

    1w9
    6w5
    1w2, 4w5, 5w4

    Top 5 ENFJ:

    3w2
    3w4
    7w6, 9w1, 1w9

    Top 5 INFP:

    5w4
    3w4, 4w3, 4w5
    5th is undecided.

    Top 5 ENFP:

    1w2
    6w7
    6w5
    3
    5th is undecided.

    Of course, it's jut a short sample.
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    @Speed Gavroche
    pretty good, but
    - Ron Paul is INFP
    - Robert Pattinson is ENFP

    PS: Fidel Castro is ENFP? I can believe that. I thought we had something in common
    that said, I'm 8w7 for him rather than 8w9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    @Speed Gavroche
    pretty good, but
    - Ron Paul is INFP
    ?

    Ron Paul is Fe as hell.

    - Robert Pattinson is ENFP
    I had seen a few interview of him before, and I had the vague impression that he was NFJ. However in the interview he says "I'm always ready for my life to change", so he is an NP. But also "I'm always waiting for it to change". I think an ENFP would be more "I'm always initiating for change".

    Also he said "[Kristen Stewart] will decide [what she thinks of] someone a lot quicker [than I will]. ... She's like, 'You're an idiot and I don't want to talk to you,' [whereas] I'm like, 'I'm an idiot too!' So I'll talk to an idiot for days before deciding."

    So it seems that even if Robert P has poor Si, his repressed function is more Te, an hard time to take decisions based on logic and quickly judge of the logical consistency in the external environment and in people. By opposition with the Te-dom Kristen S.

    PS: Fidel Castro is ENFP? I can believe that. I thought we had something in common
    He uses a lot of Ne to confuse Barbara Walters in the video, gently propose her to see things differently "dear Barbara, our conception of democracy is simply not the same, blablabla", but he's not an ENTP, so he doesn't want to stay too much on definitions of the word "there's more important problems in the world that a debate about the definition of what democracy is blablabla".

    Actually, he made a good arguing, even if it was possible to counter him quite easily.

    I also remarked that Barbara W is hotter at 77 than at 47. It's weird and creepy.

    that said, I'm 8w7 for him rather than 8w9
    He's all round and very mellow with a lot of sloth. Sounds more 8w9 for me.
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    @Speed Gavroche
    no, Ron Paul is Fi as hell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    @Speed Gavroche
    no, Ron Paul is Fi as hell
    How is he Fi?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    How is he Fi?
    he holds strong, internally formed personal convictions that he is uncompromising of, especially for a politician. an Fe politician have a much more "change with the times" approach to politics, but Ron Paul has had a consistent voting record, in line with his personal values for decades, despite the loss in popularity it's caused him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    he holds strong, internally formed personal convictions that he is uncompromising of, especially for a politician. an Fe politician have a much more "change with the times" approach to politics, but Ron Paul has had a consistent voting record, in line with his personal values for decades, despite the loss in popularity it's caused him
    I'm pretty sure you don't understand Fe. Fe is a judging function, and INFJ are IJ so Fe and INFJ are potentially as much uncompromising and stubborn than INFP and Fi. Fi is about the personal values, Ron Paul is not libertarian because it's his personal values, but because he relates on the external values and long run tradition of the Constitution and of libertarianism.

    FP are at least as changing with the times than FJ, since they are perceivers and opened to new ideas. They are also as much opprtunistic politicians than the FJ politicians. Bil Clinton is an ESFP, he is changing, versatile and opportunistic. Ronald Reagan was an ENFJ, and was far less versatile and not opportunistic, relying with constance on external values and an external ideal.

    Fi users can have a strong sense of value built on their own. However, Ron Paul relate on external principles and values, not his very personal ones. We don't know really what his personal values are, and when we ask him about this, he don't consider what he psersonally think as important. Also, FPs avoid to relate on an external conception of morality but identify on their raw, strong emotional reaction of what "feels" right at the moment. That's not what Ron Paul do.

    Also, Ron P has no Ne, and don't repress Te. So he's not INFP, but INFJ.
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