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    that be so cool if you could literally see through people, no more being annoyed at tall people while at the movies.
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    Well, I think INFJs are extremely conscious of discrepancies between what people say and what they do. At first it may be more of a feeling of disquiet or nervousness, not quite being able to put your finger on it; later it becomes a lot more obvious, perhaps when you're at that "putting the big picture together" stage.
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    I know everyone talks about judging functions but I think Ne is very valuable in this regard. It allows you to compare and contrast past and present behaviours and find patterns among them - you can then explore these to discover why person does certain things in certain situations. It also has the value of providing broader models of human behaviour why you can apply (with some alterations if necessary) to particular people and circumstances.
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    i see it and usually it's from the get go. but i
    have a very hard time articulating it. because
    i just see 'vibes' and sense mostly non tangible
    qualities.

    it's gotten me into a lot of trouble with other
    people, trying to explain what it is that i "see"
    or "sense". because most people can only see
    what i see after it's too late--like something
    happened to them and confirms all my bitching.
    they're more reactive compared to my preventive
    approach.
    every normal man must be tempted, at times,
    to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag,
    and begin slitting throats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gandalf View Post
    It's said that both INTJs and INFJs have this "ability" to see through people and that this ability of them may even disturb people around them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    I'm curious as to what you mean by "logical oddities in what they say or write." Are you also talking about some kind of statement/action discrepancy, or do mean more failures in logic?
    I was tired, quick and unconsciously a little provocative when I wrote that. Just forget it.
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    I can see that quite a few have challenged the suggestion that INTJs could excell in reading people. Well, the MBTI also suggests that INTJs have Fi as their tertiary preference yet that's sometimes not that easy to believe when reading these forums

    Quite a few type descriptions say something like this: "Fellow workers of INTJs often feel as if the INTJ can see right through them, and finds them wanting. This tendency of people to feel transparent in the presence of the INTJ often result in relationships which have psychological distance." On the other hand, it might actually sound more logical that INTPs could be even better equipped for such reading.

    I am not writing here to judge who does or doesn't have this ability. I am just curious to read any comments regarding it now that I sense some of it in me as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gandalf View Post
    Quite a few type descriptions say something like this: "Fellow workers of INTJs often feel as if the INTJ can see right through them, and finds them wanting. This tendency of people to feel transparent in the presence of the INTJ often result in relationships which have psychological distance."
    INTJs being good lie detectors doesn't necessarily equate to seeing through people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapse View Post
    INTJs being good lie detectors doesn't necessarily equate to seeing through people.
    What's the difference, really? I would understand the transparency mentioned in the quote as a synonym for them feeling being read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gandalf View Post
    What's the difference, really? I would understand the transparency mentioned in the quote as a synonym for them feeling being read.
    You may sense when people tell lies sometimes but when it comes to emotions, the inability to read and see through people is a gulf.

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