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    I get strong convictions at the right moment (or so I hope), but I'd say I'm a pretty confused person, philosophically. On some higher/intellectual level, I think I may come off questionable to "moral" people, if not wishy-washy to some. From my point of view, I see a lot of grey... even with subjects that piss me off.

    Uh, I'm not sure what my point is.. Other than that I've typed as a Fi type before, and still hold these kind of positions. Maybe I've been wrong about it.

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    I get strong convictions at the right moment (or so I hope), but I'd say I'm a pretty confused person, philosophically. On some higher/intellectual level, I think I may come off questionable to "moral" people, if not wishy-washy to some. From my point of view, I see a lot of grey... even with subjects that piss me off.

    Uh, I'm not sure what my point is.. Other than that I've typed as a Fi type before, and still hold these kind of positions. Maybe I've been wrong about it.

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    I get strong convictions at the right moment (or so I hope), but I'd say I'm a pretty confused person, philosophically. On some higher/intellectual level, I think I may come off questionable to "moral" people, if not wishy-washy to some. From my point of view, I see a lot of grey... even with subjects that piss me off. I'll dwell a lot on solutions rather than come up with things at the flick of a switch.

    Uh, I'm not sure what my point is.. Other than that I've typed as a Fi type before, and still hold these kind of positions. Maybe I've been wrong about it.

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    I get strong convictions at the right moment (or so I hope), but I'd say I'm a pretty confused person, philosophically. On some higher/intellectual level, I think I may come off questionable to "moral" people, if not wishy-washy to some. From my point of view, I see a lot of grey... even with subjects that piss me off. I'll dwell a lot on solutions rather than come up with things at the flick of a switch. I don't have the time to raise issues about everything.

    Uh, I'm not sure what my point is.. Other than that I've typed as a Fi type before, and still hold these kind of positions. Maybe I've been wrong about being a judging type.

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    To answer these as well...

    Also do you find that you have a great deal of tolerance towards others who do not meet your values , but perhaps not a respect of the choices they make?

    I don't believe in forcing stuff on others. However, I'm comfortable with influencing by example, opening conversation on certain ideas, and imparting my views when its appropriate & generally welcome. I think it's important to respect that other people have their feelings & beliefs because that's the treatment I want, but that doesn't mean I respect the belief itself. I also don't feel it's within my power nor my responsibility to right all the wrongs in the world. I do the best I can and those people are responsible for themselves.

    Additionally do you actually ever met your own value standards?
    Things I value often amount to my ideal self, which means they are more like theoretical goals to work towards. I meet them by constantly moving forward, which is why stagnation or feeling powerless frustrates me more than anything.


    2 are you okay with others not fOlliwing some of your smaller values?

    I answered this in a hurry last time & misread the question, leaving out the word "others", thinking it was simply "are you okay with not following...". But basically, just as I realize I am a flawed human & can accept that, I realize the same of others, and probably give them even more leeway because I don't know their needs/struggles as well as my own. Many of my values are based on my personal ideal/needs, which wouldn't even apply to them. I think I get frustrated with others when they sabotage themselves, and I see their potential. They aren't living up to their own stated/implied values. Or I get frustrated when they block me from meeting my values, or devalue what's important to me, etc. The smaller it is, the less it frustrates me though.

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    3 what causes you to externalize a value offense to another? Not as in venting to a friend but rather confronting the other person when they have crossed a value? What does this externalization look like?

    I don't know. I think it often it has less to do with nobly fighting for a righteous cause. Mostly I hold it back because, a) there is often little to be gained in confronting people; b) I feel inept at broaching the subject and explaining myself; c) I'm timid about confronting others; d) I think self-control is a better approach (ie. I control my behaviour better than I can others').

    But again this is more about my behaviour being in accordance to what is right, than other people's.

    Another more indirect externalisation is that I would avoid and distrust people who exhibit behaviour I strongly disapprove of, often without verbalising or even openly demonstrating that sentiment.
    The bolded I especially relate to as well. There's definitely a weighing of the pros & cons, and confrontation often has more cons. If I can't imagine any good outcome from a confrontation, or there is much higher risk for a poor outcome, then I don't bother with it. One of the cons is ALWAYS how much energy it will take out of me. I too usually won't take it upon myself to confront anyone unless I feel it would violate a much larger moral that goes far beyond my personal feelings, and even then, I would have to feel my effort has some chance to cause positive change. And yes, I avoid people/things/situations which seem beyond my power to influence, not worth the energy, or the problem itself is solved by simply removing them.

    That said, I actually don't find it hard to stand up for myself or others or things I believe in when necessary. I've never felt like a doormat, taken advantage of, etc. But I also don't have a lot of drama in my life. I tend to only get emotionally close to a select few, which leaves me pretty untouched by a lot.
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