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    Quote Originally Posted by Nijntje View Post
    There is none.

    We cause pain and destruction wherever we go. Not intentionally. But that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

    BURN THEM ALL.
    Agreed.

    (actually I love INFPs but have thus far had nothing but terrible experiences with them in relationships, because they've been the only type I've had relationships with.)
    I have a (new) blog here.

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    NEVILLE LONGBOTTOM!

    That is all.
    “If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.” ― Oscar Wilde

    "I'm outtie 5000" ― Romulux

    Johari/Nohari

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    Everyone is so unique and different. I'm 40.

    Recently I've had much improvements. I did set up my final bills on autopay last week. Also, I restructured my duties at work. I gave other people duties I was doing that frustrated me, and took on duties other people were doing which frustrated me because they were failing. Now things are repaired, but can things be recovered? I'm not sure. I'm going to try. That is, the ship is still going towards the waterfall, but the methods of propulsion have been fixed. Oh man, I feel so much better.

    As for domestic tasks, I'm not real great. In fact being a domestic care-taker for retarded adults was the only job where I was fired.

    Yesterday my meals were 2 pounds of bacon cooked in the microwave, along with two stoffer's microwave spagetti dinners for lunch. Also, around one and half gallons of soy milk.

    Today I'm not sure. I'm not quite hungry enough yet to deploy the energy to put things in the microwave.

    I did check on the fish. Next I will feed the fish. Most of my JOBS invovled caring for plants or animals. My Masters degree is in Aquaculture, which involves nuturing anything that grows in the water. In my case, I was probably born with "fish empathy". I empathically know what is wrong with plants or fish. One characteristic which is contrary to classical INFP/ INTP is that I'm observant.

    A major complaint is that I'm messy. I'm trying to improve, but I'll walk right past trash I threw on the ground...indefinitely...but notice very slight differences in fish behavior. I was a gardener before I came here (for five years), but when I got here, my bonsai all died because I became rapped up in the fish.

    Earlier this morning I took out a big drawing tablet and made a list. I looked at what ponds I want to drain, and where I would move fish and where I would add water and where I would add chemicals or fertilizer. This is some sort of explosion of Te? I guess so. I think making these sorts of lists is essential.

    Oh, Huxley: I go buy clothes instead of dealing with the laundry monster. Recently I went to Wally world and bought around 45 38 gallon plastic tubs for dealing and organizing the laundry and other monsters.

    Saturned: I hope you find more. I went to the "aquarium of the Americas" 8 times, includig 2 "behind the scenes" tours. We helped feed the sharks one day. I'm not sure the status of the Aquarium since Katrina. What I found out is that that place had about four well-paid positions that were primarily veterinarians, and then a few hourly staff, and a waiting list for volunteering. Lots of those sorts of places have volunteering.

    Naturally, I'd need to "be you" in order to find something. Me, I went and applied to places that interested me. My first job out of graduate school was found by calling a number on a post it note stuck to a bulletin board of the fisheries building at the university. My current job was found on an aquaculture jobs website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    I cringe at the emoness of the title and the following paragraph(s), but I am being quite serious.

    One reason for my inquiry is because I have been looking into different career ideas for myself, and I feel bombarded with a sense of "nothing practical applies to me."

    Another reason is a "compliment" I got from an ENTP friend of mine recently who said "Saturned, you would make an awesome girlfriend because you are lots of fun.... but a terrible wife because you wouldn't do the iron my shirts and home cooked breakfast deal." I didn't even know how to reply other than to look like this:



    But it did get me thinking about how practical am I, really? (For it is true, I loathe ironing, and while I love cooking, I am not confident that I can whip out 3 meals a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year, and 60 years of a marriage without needing a lobotomy.)

    Disclaimer: I don't ask this in that I seek external validation for who I am because I am pretty happy with how I have turned out so far. I just sincerely want to know what others think about INFPs, and INFPs themselves, and if there is a practical application to our glittery, pegasus riding selves.

    TL;DR:
    Please share your opinions, both good and bad, about INFPs or glitter or unicorns or something.
    I dont think you are really looking at it from a practical viewpoint, just from a vision of the future, where you are interpreting this future, from the perception of who you are in the here and now. But that may vary from your own perception of yourself in the future.

    So you hate ironing and cooking 7 days a week? Then find something to fill the rest of your waking hours that will enable you to do these "day to day routines" with a smile on your face.

    Realizing the trites of day to day life and then ignore them in the hope it disappears is impractical. Its not being a specific personality type that makes one impractical.

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    The top manager in my department is most likely an INFP. He does what he is good at and delegates the rest to other managers. I think you can be practical when the motivation is there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    Sometimes it's not about a 'specific career path'. Look outside of 'career' when considering what things an INFP can offer the world. I personally think that many INTP's and INFP's have a gift for teaching, instructing, informing, offering fresh insight and perspective into the problems/situation of life - and insight/perspective into life itself. When I mention these things - like teaching for instance - I don't "necessarily" mean in a classroom or even in a group setting. Think about the 1-on-1 discussions you have with your friends and family members. Undoubtedly, without even realizing it, you have offered them very helpful insights and perspectives throughout your relationships with them - you have taught them. Because of the curious nature of INxP's - always questioning, always digging, always turning over the next rock to see what might be underneath it, always observing, always considering, contemplating, pondering, etc, we are many times able to offer a unique perspective that many others would not have considered.

    Think about ESxx types - they love being part of the "action" of life. It's been my experience that they can teach us many things about being practical and productive, and even about interacting with people. But, it's also been my experience that we can teach them by offering our unique perspective, things that they may have never even considered before. We are the ones standing back, away from the action and observing. That approach to life automatically gives a different perspective, a different world-view if you will, from the person who is action oriented. So, we can help them, they can help us. I think INTP's can teach, instruct, inform, and offer insight/perspective to others in regards to "things", "stuff", systems, how to think through problems, etc. But, INFP's can do all those same things as it pertains to people, humanity, compassion, forgiveness (!!), etc. The non-logic side of things. While the INTP is more geared toward justice and truth, the INFP is more geared towards mercy and the subjective side of life. Both have their place. To embrace one and reject the other would be to sacrifice something. Both viewpoints are necessary in this world.

    By understanding who you are and what traits you possess that are unique to this world, only then can you begin to look at careers that will enable you to use those traits. What career will enable you (or give you an avenue) to teach, instruct, inform, offer insight, offer perspective, etc? Writers are able to do those things through their writing. Counselors are able to do those things. Therapists. Speakers. Aquarium/shark tank tour guides can teach, educate, and inform people about the shark kingdom. These are all very real, practical, and tangible careers. People do these things every day and you too have access to these careers. Also remember, however, that your career - no matter which one you choose - will never FULLY encompass who you are. When you go home on the weekends or when you are with friends and family and even encounters with strangers - you are still able to teach, instruct, offer insight/perspective, etc.

    Purpose = 24/7/365
    Career = 9-to-5 or some other limited amount of hours.

    Try to line up career with purpose so that they blend in nicely with who you are and what you enjoy doing.
    First paragraph revisited with nonmush brain: I hadn't thought to reframe this in terms of practicality. But now that you point it out I can see tons of example cropping up in my mind from friends and family who have said "Oh... I never thought X before... hmm..." It seems I am the one who has dismissed myself as being not so practical versus other people.

    Second paragraph: Yes, I have been fortunate enough to have several INTPs in my life who offer incredible advice and the ability to perceive the true heart of a problem. Example, I was given excellent advice on how to know when it's time for me to put my pet bunny down who is very old. "God made bunnies to hop, and they need to hop" is my paraphrasing of that excellent advice. Well, the bunny isn't able to hop very well lately so what once was a difficult concept and decision to make, has been made easier because the path is easier. I should thank this INTP.

    Yay! My penchant for mercy has its place in this world! Victory is mine! (But iz ok, becuz ah will be merciful.)

    Third paragraph: Also very important consideration to not let career stuff run my entire life. I am currently leaning towards writer because that is my secret secret wish and dream. I just get in my way because I fear failure. And failure doesn't mean not getting published... Spending 10 minutes and BN convinces me that a carrot who is tall enough to reach a keyboard can be published... it's more of a pressure to create something incredible and amazing and successful and the greatest thing written evah... And so then I sit down with these ridiculous expectations and stare at the blank word document and decide that what I really need in order to write is to do some research on wikipedia or a nap or something.

    Perhaps my purpose is to just be all INFP and impractical and bizarre and dreamy and full of glitter.

    *goes off to buy :uni:*

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    Also, sometimes easier said than done, but try to approach it from other people's perspective as well. Instead of viewing it only from the perspective of "what job will make ME happy", view it from the perspective of "what does the world need me to do? What can I offer?" Who do you think would do a better job:

    (a) the Congressman who gets into politics because he knows he has the ability and the drive and the knowledge to make a positive impact on the nation, the state, and his constituants, the people he serves and represents.
    (b) the Congressman who gets into politics because it'd be cool, he'd have lots of power, prestige, and a good pension, and be well known.

    I'd argue that some of the problems you see in politics today (world, national, state, local, university, etc.) are because too many people approached their career with perspective (b). If you can realize your unique talents and skills and then parlay those things into something that focuses on benefitting the world around you and the people living in it, then I think things fall into place quite nicely. Not only are you benefitting the world and people in it, you'll end up happy yourself.
    I'd point out that power corrupts and that:





    But in all seriousness, I like that viewpoint as well. Ultimately what makes me happiest is a mix of creativity, making other people feel better, and fulfilling the need to have meaning in my life. Which when I am creative or helping others... I feel fulfilled and that my life is worthwhile and meaningful, etc. It's a circle of happiness!

    And circles are wonderfully happy. Especially when they combine to form a...... VENN DIAGRAM!


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    P.S. Thank you to everyone who has replied! I will reply more later when I have a bit more time.

    In the meantime I spent 2 hours at BN last night and I solved part of my "problem" by purchasing books in a variety of subjects:

    • Textbook on writing that I can use to create some much needed discipline.
    • Magazine on how to write for children and the age group that loves Twilight.
    • A book called "God is in the small stuff." My favorite excerpt is about how God orchestrated the "wild dance of plants and universes that we have yet to explore".... My dream of the afterlife may come true after all!!! (I wantz to explorez ze universez.)
    • 2 books by Frederick Buechner. I haven't heard of this guy before but his books (at first glance) seem to be very INP in nature.
    • 2 fiction novels to dazzle my brain with candy.


    Can nothing be cured by a trip to a bookstore? I have my doubts. Oh, I also went to Sephora and got make-up and bubble bath that smells like cotton candy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not_Me View Post
    The top manager in my department is most likely an INFP. He does what he is good at and delegates the rest to other managers. I think you can be practical when the motivation is there.
    Exactly! A point I clearly missed in my post above. Good to have a Not_Me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    And circles are wonderfully happy. Especially when they combine to form a...... VENN DIAGRAM!

    You left the obvious werewolf off of this diagram. Hiding something?

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