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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    The way I see it Fe dom users are often good at exaggerating their Fe while someone who is more Ti dom may have alot of trouble doing that. Fe isn't faked in the Fe user when that person is legitimate and is showing their "Fe" in a healthy manner. However If the Fe dom user is having a bad day or has ulterior motives they defiantly have that ability to use their Fe in a "fake" manner. This is why Fe users can come across as "fake" because they are quite good at using their Fe.
    What is it 'faking'? Fe isn't about what's happening internally. If I make a violin that looks like a Stradivarius, is it a 'fake violin'? No, it still works like a violin and can play very beautiful music. Is it a 'fake Stradivarius'? Only if I put a label on it or tell people that it's a real one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    The way I see it Fe dom users are often good at exaggerating their Fe while someone who is more Ti dom may have alot of trouble doing that. Fe isn't faked in the Fe user when that person is legitimate and is showing their "Fe" in a healthy manner. However If the Fe dom user is having a bad day or has ulterior motives they defiantly have that ability to use their Fe in a "fake" manner. This is why Fe users can come across as "fake" because they are quite good at using their Fe even for negative reasons.
    This is a great point. As a Ti-dom, I have an internal conflict when I "fake the funk" with Fe. I'm doing it, and I know I'm doing it, and I don't like it. Ti says to me, "Why are you being so fake right now? Why do you even do that? I thought you were better than that?!"

    So, yeah, it could be a Ti-Fe internal battle that is specific to INP's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    The way I see it Fe dom users are often good at exaggerating their Fe while someone who is more Ti dom may have alot of trouble doing that. Fe isn't faked in the Fe user when that person is legitimate and is showing their "Fe" in a healthy manner. However If the Fe dom user is having a bad day or has ulterior motives they defiantly have that ability to use their Fe in a "fake" manner. This is why Fe users can come across as "fake" because they are quite good at using their Fe even for negative reasons.
    Can you please define "fake" for the audience? There seems to be a misunderstanding in that "fake" in these contexts means "it is as real as the Easter Bunny is" versus "not genuine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    Can you please define "fake" for the audience? There seems to be a misunderstanding in that "fake" in these contexts means "it is as real as the Easter Bunny is" versus "not genuine.
    All I'm saying is that an Fe dom user has that ability to not be genuine about their Fe, and can use that ability alot easier than other types. Fe isn't fake in it's purest form but the user has the ability more than other MBTI types to use it in a negative context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    Are you implying that you've never interacted with someone that you very much dislike and "been nice" even though you didn't want to be nice at that moment? In other words, you "put on a nice face" for the evening and then when you got home you went, "Boy am I glad to be done with that person!"

    Or, a boss that you didn't particularly care for demanded that you do something you didn't want to do and you went "Oh, okay. No problem. Hee hee."

    You've never done those things? Or things like that?

    I guess I see your point. Fe is simply the "mechanism" we use to "be nice", so maybe it's not the Fe in and of itself that is fake - instead it's something in the person that causes them to "employ the Fe mechanism". Either way, when a person employs such strategies, the person themselves is being fake to some degree.
    No, they're not. They truly feel that expressing a negative emotion at that time would not be worth the trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pan-en-theist View Post
    Do you know the type metaphor of the Dominant as the captain at the helm of a ship, the Auxiliary as the crew, the Tertiary as the sailor watching the captain from the railing but also watching the Shadow, who is in a small boat tied to the large vessel and angrily trying to row in the opposite direction, waiting for the captain to lose focus?
    Well Captain, if you would leave me the hell alone then I wouldn't be so grouchy would I? JK - I feel like I have spent my whole life rowing against the tide.

    Quote Originally Posted by Resonance View Post
    You only start to see inconsistencies when you break down the semantic content of it and notice that they're basically saying the opposite thing in both cases - that's a Ti process.
    Inferior Fe is a bitch. I feel a certain obligation to play along with the established order but sometimes it's just easier to lie and escape the pressure of implicit social rules. Somebody, please explain to me how a "rule" can be implicit. Doesn't that violate a fundamental principal of rule making? ** sorry, Ti rant **

    Just like I-Pness, I confess to my own Fe fakey, smiley hypocrisy at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    All I'm saying is that an Fe dom user has that ability to not be genuine about their Fe, and can use that ability alot easier than other types. Fe isn't fake in it's purest form but the user has the ability more than other MBTI types to use it in a negative context.
    This x 1,000,000. That's it in a nutshell. The ability is there to be fake and *sometimes* that ability is employed. Think: big interview for that awesome new job. We Fe users act SOOOOO sweet in those interviews. "Oh Betty, let's hire him...isn't he just the sweetest little guy you've ever seen?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    All I'm saying is that an Fe dom user has that ability to not be genuine about their Fe, and can use that ability alot easier than other types. Fe isn't fake in it's purest form but the user has the ability more than other MBTI types to use it in a negative context.
    If you're simply saying that dom-Fe-ers will have the ability to use Fe more negatively than any of the other types who use (or don't use) Fe, I might buy it, as long as you also add that dom-Ne-ers will have the ability to use Ne more negatively than any of the other types, and dom-Ti-ers will have the ability....... and so on. But even then... Fe could be the means of manipulation from any of the types, so an ESTP could be much more manipulative with Fe than a dom-Fe-er. Ok so maybe I don't buy this.

    There's nothing inherently more manipulative/destined-to-go-sour about Fe than any of the other functions, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    No, they're not. They truly feel that expressing a negative emotion at that time would not be worth the trouble.
    Wouldn't be worth the trouble to express it - but they still feel it!!! They're (we're) covering up what they really feel.
    NTJ's are the only types that have ever made me feel emo.
    ENP's are the only types that have ever made me feel like a sensor.


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    Boy, this thread got loooooong overnight...

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    P.S. "they" is not grammatically correct when I am speaking about a Fe user and not Fe users.
    Technically, "they" is an acceptable gender-neutral single-person pronoun, I believe. /pedant

    Quote Originally Posted by stalemate View Post
    I declare this thread fake.
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    Oh God. Please don't make this Fi vs. Fe. Please please please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pan-en-theist View Post
    Fe is a very complicated issue, I think. It has four manifestations, two as dominant functions and two as auxiliary functions. We need to carefully assess how Fe works as a dominant for ENFJs and ESFJs, how Fe operates as an auxiliary for INFJs and ISFJs.
    Mmmm-hmmm. The roles matter quite a lot, methinks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pan-en-theist View Post
    Can we drop the word "fake"? Nothing is fake in typology. Fake, as in not having meaning or reality. The extreme E..FJs (with no developed auxiliary) are truly acting in the reality of their convictions.
    Thank you, sir.

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