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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    Being someone who lives with an ESFJ, I kind of get what you're getting at... Stuff like, "Jim's a nice guy, huh?", "The weather's been sunny, hasn't it?", "I think we're the most important people in her life, don't you?". Mind you, these are the coherent ones - tertiary Ne has a way of making you go O_o...

    Indeed!

    Although for the 40 y.o. I don't know if he uses anything besides FeSi... His Ti and Ne were never installed.

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    OP: I have definitely observed this in a couple of EFJs I know. No IFJ incidences as of yet.

    For example... One time I gave an EFJ a gift. Although the EFJ already knew what the gift was (because I mentioned it in the card she read before opening the gift), she still proceeded to asked me what it was when she was about to open it. That confused me, so I said, "Huh? I thought I already you read about what it was." The EFJ replied, "Yeah, I know." Well that left me scratching my head.

    I think I just saw it as a "silence-filler" on her part... something she just blurted out without much thought. It certainly did weird me out, but I wasn't terribly bothered by it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IZthe411 View Post
    Actually, learning type differences has helped me to not see sincere Fe attempts as fake. So that's not the problem, at least for me. It's definitely annoying, though, And sometimes I'm visibly annoyed by their sincere attempts. One time we were at a restaurant, and it was a down day for me, so I wasn't my usual joking self. the 27 y/o kept asking me 'Are you okay', how's your sandwich? So in comes 2 black chicks. (I had made a joke coming in to the restaurant that I didn't feel comfortable- because I was the only one with a tie. I was the only black person in there as well, but I played it off the tie/digress) So the 27 y/o says, in an attempt to make me laugh "Man it just got dark in here". It was bad. I don't usually get offended, but I got offended. He was trying to get a laugh outta me the same way ENFJ and I joke (ENFJ's from India), but it was just WRONG. I actually had to pull him to the side to let him know he has to stop trying so hard with me. No need to be my cheerleader.
    wow that's just...i don't know what that is....tacky i guess. i haaaate it when people are trying to be funny and say something just completely stupid and tasteless. like someone just did about abortions the other day...not funny. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    Being someone who lives with an ESFJ, I kind of get what you're getting at... Stuff like, "Jim's a nice guy, huh?", "The weather's been sunny, hasn't it?", "I think we're the most important people in her life, don't you?". Mind you, these are the coherent ones - tertiary Ne has a way of making you go O_o...
    it does right!! i can definitely see that ne...and it's weeeeird on them haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by copperfish17 View Post
    OP: I have definitely observed this in a couple of EFJs I know. No IFJ incidences as of yet.

    For example... One time I gave an EFJ a gift. Although the EFJ already knew what the gift was (because I mentioned it in the card she read before opening the gift), she still proceeded to asked me what it was when she was about to open it. That confused me, so I said, "Huh? I thought I already you read about what it was." The EFJ replied, "Yeah, I know." Well that left me scratching my head.

    I think I just saw it as a "silence-filler" on her part... something she just blurted out without much thought. It certainly did weird me out, but I wasn't terribly bothered by it.
    That's exactly the sort of thing my ESFJ-in-training daughter does. It's very strange, she's developed out of it, though. Mostly.

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    I definitely am uncomfortable in silence if I don't know the people I'm with well. I'd rather chit-chat a bit than feel ultra-awkward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    wow that's just...i don't know what that is....tacky i guess. i haaaate it when people are trying to be funny and say something just completely stupid and tasteless. like someone just did about abortions the other day...not funny. :/

    Yeah it was BAD........I understand it's a sincere Fe attempt. I don't even know if I was more mad at the content of the joke or him trying to make me feel better, thinking it was his duty to make me feel better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copperfish17 View Post
    OP: I have definitely observed this in a couple of EFJs I know. No IFJ incidences as of yet.

    For example... One time I gave an EFJ a gift. Although the EFJ already knew what the gift was (because I mentioned it in the card she read before opening the gift), she still proceeded to asked me what it was when she was about to open it. That confused me, so I said, "Huh? I thought I already you read about what it was." The EFJ replied, "Yeah, I know." Well that left me scratching my head.

    I think I just saw it as a "silence-filler" on her part... something she just blurted out without much thought. It certainly did weird me out, but I wasn't terribly bothered by it.
    That's why even when I get irritated at it, I'm less likely to take it personally. It seems to be part of the 'speak first/think later' mentality of an extrovert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IZthe411 View Post
    That's why even when I get irritated at it, I'm less likely to take it personally. It seems to be part of the 'speak first/think later' mentality of an extrovert.
    Even so, if such behavior became a pattern it sure would irritate me. My immediate unspoken reaction to that incidence I wrote about above was: 'Did you even read what I wrote?! Geez. What a thoughtless comment. :steam:'
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