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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    And to further the idea that this thread is totally all about me. (ugh) I will relate this funny INFP conversation from earlier today via texts between me and my best friend (INFP).

    INFP: yay! I am going out with my dad for lunch today!
    ME: awesome! have a great time
    INFP: except we are going for indian food.
    ME: why sad face? you love indian food.
    INFP: yeah but I REALLY wanted to go get some japanese food, but he picked the indian restaurant out of the 3 ideas I gave him.

    I had to chuckle because I totally see why she did what she did, but I also see how annoying we are when we do this. I know for a fact that if she had said, gee Dad I would love Japanese food! He would cheerfully agree and go there instead.

    I think we should ship ourselves one way to the planet Saturn for a life of hugs and ponies and not much else.

    And now my Fi pond is 100% empty and I need to go restock it.
    Heh. Yeah, I don't exactly identify with being uncommunicative on that level. My parents always told me I could be persuasive if I wanted to. If I wanted to eat Japanese, I would try to make it sound appealing. If no one's convinced, that'd be OK, but I've never been one to not make a suggestion (or two). Especially with closer friends or family. There's even more familiarity there. I know where I stand with people, and the world is not going to end if I have an opinion. That's one idea I'd encourage anyone to understand. It's not the end of the world. And you don't have to bother projecting that level of sensitivity on to others either. Half of the time, they don't care.

    That all said, it's different the further from "home" I get. I'm more diplomatic. If a majority wanted Indian food, I'm not going to bring the atmosphere down by insisting on something else. I like Indian anyways. It's another good choice, out of many. I am Ne, after all.. j/k

    As for deeper opinions, there's a lot of personal stuff I hold back, but I'd rather not let things develop like some of the relationship examples INTPness mentioned. And in more negative situations, I don't mind a fight if it's necessary. It sucks, but fights have different degrees of "sucktitude", so sometimes it's best to get things out of the way. I know all about the "crack in the dam", but for whatever reason, I think it's best to try to nip things in the bud far before that kind of explosion piles up. There's always little signs that something is going to get worse if I don't do something about it, and I feel partly responsible if I don't help (myself and others) get past it. As far as I'm concerned, that's the Fi thing to do. I can recall situations in my teens where I was still too far on the hesitant side, but I would chalk it up more to shyness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_World_As_Will View Post
    Sooo IF you guys (INFPs) were to rule the world, would you kill off your INTPs cousins?? We aren't found of teh gas chambers!!
    OMIGOSHNO!!!


    I HEART intp's!!

    My dad is INTP, my best friend is INTP and i've had intp boyfriends.

    You guys, once you strip back the layers of logic are actually fluffier than we are! <3 <3 <3 <3

    Terrible things happen to good people every day.
    Consequentially, I am not one of the good people.
    I am one of the terrible things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    My first order of business as Empress is to hand out ponies to everyone.

    After that it's fingerpaint time.

    I really can't plan much further than that sorry.
    When i was 4 i was convinced santa was bringing me a pony to my dad's house. Very early christmas morning i got up, and creeeeeeped out into the front garden where iwas sure my shin new pony would be.

    it wasn't there. puzzled i went back inside, "maybe it will be in the back yard" i thought to myself, i couldn't unlock the back door by myself, so i waited patiently, peering through the curtains, waiting for my family to wake up.

    When they did and i went screaming into the back yard for my pony, only to find santa DIDN'T bring me one, i remember crying inconsolably to my INTP dad who thought it was the funniest thing in the world. The rest of my family couldn't undertand why i wasn't impressed with my hot pink barbie car.

    Fuck barbie. i wanted a pony =C

    Also. I have a fine arts degree i like to call my "fingerpainting degree"

    This post has no purpose other than to help make me late for an appointment.

    You're welcome =D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nijntje View Post
    OMIGOSHNO!!!


    I HEART intp's!!

    My dad is INTP, my best friend is INTP and i've had intp boyfriends.

    You guys, once you strip back the layers of logic are actually fluffier than we are! <3 <3 <3 <3

    I might be an INTP, for all I know. So I wouldn't kill them off =P I'm a little puzzled where I fall exactly, like many 5w4ish INPs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Is it easier for INFPs to drop straight into Ne mode?
    Why do you do that?
    I was confused about this for a little while too. I think part might be that Ti kind of tethers the balloon that is Ne more so than Fi does. So more flights of fancy for the INFP, while for an INTP, Ti kind of has to agree not to butt in with stuff like checking consistency before the balloon can take off

    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    For me... this is how I view it. Everyone has that gooey secret mush center where their soul is. (Well, perhaps not NTJs.... ) For most types, I think they have natural defenses in place. Maybe it's a Ti or Te function that can deflect hurt away, etc. Maybe it's something else.

    For INFP's our strongest function is Fi and that is directly connected/melded with our tender little soul. You prod it, you are prodding our innermost being. We can assemble a decent defense of Ne - but most SOs will figure out pretty quickly that the Ne is merely the crunchy candy coating that is housing what is actually going on. And this, I am sure, can be very frustrating. However, when we expose our Fi... even if it's something as simple as "Hey, I would love it if you bought me a pony." There is a chance you will say no, or not now, or how about an iguana. We interpret this response as a a rejection of ourselves because our Fi = ourselves.
    And this is what I have found as well, and you have phrased it so nicely Candy coating with squishy center... I wonder if the reverse can be true for the ENxPs. Like, it's annoying when people don't see my logic of a situation, but it's more of a critical blow if I start taking one of the alternatives I offer seriously and nobody wants to hear it. But then how does a squishy outside work anyway? This is about the INFPs anyway, so I shall fuel the demands....








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    ENFP or ENTP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaLuminosity View Post
    I was confused about this for a little while too. I think part might be that Ti kind of tethers the balloon that is Ne more so than Fi does. So more flights of fancy for the INFP, while for an INTP, Ti kind of has to agree not to butt in with stuff like checking consistency before the balloon can take off
    Ti might be more formally systematic, on what's consistent.. maybe it'd be safe to say that categories are often filed easier for quick reference? Yet at the same time, Fi is global. I think they check in their own way. It's just difficult to talk about the process. Also, I think if you kept seeing Ne, you're looking at a Ne dominant. I think if you saw someone with more expressive bubbliness too, you're seeing an ESFP or ENFP playing with their Fi (as auxiliary). Because they don't take it as seriously. Just like ENTPs mostly play with Ti situationally, because they don't take it as seriously (in the sense of a global set of rules, like INTPs).

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaLuminosity View Post
    I was confused about this for a little while too. I think part might be that Ti kind of tethers the balloon that is Ne more so than Fi does. So more flights of fancy for the INFP, while for an INTP, Ti kind of has to agree not to butt in with stuff like checking consistency before the balloon can take off



    And this is what I have found as well, and you have phrased it so nicely Candy coating with squishy center... I wonder if the reverse can be true for the ENxPs. Like, it's annoying when people don't see my logic of a situation, but it's more of a critical blow if I start taking one of the alternatives I offer seriously and nobody wants to hear it. But then how does a squishy outside work anyway? This is about the INFPs anyway, so I shall fuel the demands....







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    Quote Originally Posted by Crescent Fresh View Post
    ENFP or ENTP?
    For what? Dating? E to the n to the t to the p.

    For hugs? See above.

    For egging each other on so we end up in jail? Both!

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    I definitely have "serious" questions concerning Fi (Fi is an interesting animal) but it's been my experience that Fi'ers really don't want/like those serious questions - and sometimes the dialogue becomes delicate, stressful, or even heated (both IRL and on the forum)...
    I mean, what you're describing is passive aggression, not Fi. Although both passive aggression and jealousy used to be a huge problem of mine due to my Fi, I overcame them. I think Fi is a useless beast. I'd much rather be Ti dominant, and this is coming from an INFP who is constantly mistaken for an INTP and has relatively good Ti.
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