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    introverted Sensing (Si) *************** (15.9)
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    extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ****************************** (30.3)
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    introverted Intuiting (Ni) *************************************** (39.4)
    excellent use
    extraverted Thinking (Te) ***************** (17.9)
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    introverted Thinking (Ti) ************************************ (36.3)
    excellent use
    extraverted Feeling (Fe) ********************************** (34.4)
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    introverted Feeling (Fi) ******************************** (32.4)
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    Summary Analysis of Profile
    By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: INFJ


    If these cognitive processes don't fit well then consider these types: ENFJ, or ISTP

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    These are the results from my last test and these probably better resemble the results that I normally get. I usually get Ni dominant with Ti always close behind. Then always Fe and Se close behind that. I can actually notice that I make little use of Si and Te though. But perhaps on the test this time around I just answered the Si/Te questions lower than usual which made the other scores a lot higher.

    But I can honestly say that yes, my Ti is extremely well developed. Life circumstances forced me to develop strong Ti. I've also had to spend a lot of time in solitude where it was pretty much the only thing that I focused on. I saw you were a similar case with your results. You have extremely well developed Fi because life circumstances led you to develop it strongly... and most people would be surprised to see your Fi is that high and might not believe it, but you yourself know it's accurate. Well I'm the same way with Ti...

    You said that a lot of F's test low T results, which is true, but I'm definitely not the normal 'F' I can tell you that for sure. My T/F are pretty much balanced. Also take into account that I'm enneagram 8w7, not a lot of F's will be that type either. So you're correct in saying that I'm an extreme case because I am. (I also have a hard time relating to other male F's in here.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoSunshine View Post
    Great article! Sounds like I've been trying to get in touch with my shadow function...I just didn't know it.

    I totally agree with the concept that the shadow functions are neglected aspect of self. In my personal development, Fe was far more useful than Fi so I never really developed and downright neglected Fi. Funny enough, in order to work on integrating the functions one of the methods I used (and still do) is mindfulness meditation. The article speaks about how Buddhist mindfulness is theoretically linked to integrating the shadow self into the personality...hey guess what theory tested and its working Of course, I never thought of it as integrating my shadow functions, I thought of it as emotional awareness. But better put, I would say that emotional awareness is the process of acknowledging the shadow functions and integration is acceptance (rather than rejection) of those functions to create a more harmonious self.

    Would you say this is similar to your thoughts? Do you have more insight? Maybe you should start that thread?
    Yes, that is very much in line with what I've come up with before.

    But here's a new insight I just thought of while reading your post: I was previously somewhat concerned concerned about the idea of integration, cuz, what if we actually cause problems for ourselves by integrating our shadow? I mean, might it not confuse you, or screw you up, and possibly cause you to lose some of your individuality by essentially shifting your dominant function from on attitude to another (for you, from Fe to Fi; for me, from Ni to Ne)? It took me long enough to get really good at using my Ni -- knowing how to listen to it, and keep an open mind to its postulations, but not necessarily buy into them just because they're bubbling up from under the surface -- so might it not be detrimental to just throw away all that work I put in to learning to use it well to just switch over to using Ne instead...? It's a bit worrisome, cuz it takes you out of your "comfort zone", your area of greatest strength and expertise, and throws you into a perspective which is much more unwieldy for you... would you say you went through something like this? And, if so, how did it feel, and what was it like? How did you respond in order to best deal with it?

    Hmmm... maybe I will make this thread...

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    So will you be making a thread about the patterns you've noticed across the board? I find this quite interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice View Post
    Cognitive Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)

    extraverted Sensing (Se) ********************************* (33.4)
    good use
    introverted Sensing (Si) *************** (15.9)
    unused
    extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ****************************** (30.3)
    good use
    introverted Intuiting (Ni) *************************************** (39.4)
    excellent use
    extraverted Thinking (Te) ***************** (17.9)
    limited use
    introverted Thinking (Ti) ************************************ (36.3)
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    extraverted Feeling (Fe) ********************************** (34.4)
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    introverted Feeling (Fi) ******************************** (32.4)
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    Summary Analysis of Profile
    By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: INFJ


    If these cognitive processes don't fit well then consider these types: ENFJ, or ISTP

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    These are the results from my last test and these probably better resemble the results that I normally get. I usually get Ni dominant with Ti always close behind. Then always Fe and Se close behind that. I can actually notice that I make little use of Si and Te though. But perhaps on the test this time around I just answered the Si/Te questions lower than usual which made the other scores a lot higher.

    But I can honestly say that yes, my Ti is extremely well developed. Life circumstances forced me to develop strong Ti. I've also had to spend a lot of time in solitude where it was pretty much the only thing that I focused on. I saw you were a similar case with your results. You have extremely well developed Fi because life circumstances led you to develop it strongly... and most people would be surprised to see your Fi is that high and might not believe it, but you yourself know it's accurate. Well I'm the same way with Ti...

    You said that a lot of F's test low T results, which is true, but I'm definitely not the normal 'F' I can tell you that for sure. My T/F are pretty much balanced. Also take into account that I'm enneagram 8w7, not a lot of F's will be that type either. So you're correct in saying that I'm an extreme case because I am. (I also have a hard time relating to other male F's in here.)
    Cool, cool.

    So do you think you're an INFJ or ENFJ?

    You seem pretty extroverted to me, but, then again, people often mistake me for an extrovert, both online and irl...

    Looking at these second results, I realize I hadn't thought of something when looking at your first ones: you could have be extensively using your auxiliary loop (Ni+Ti).

    Especially for someone who was in your situation, I could see how they could develop their Ti like that.

    It could also make you look like more of an INFJ on these kinds of tests (based on functional strength, as opposed to functional order).

    (Check out question #3 below for more on this topic...)

    It would be like throwing me into an environment where I'd have to use a lot of Se.

    I might engage my aux loop (Te+Se), and so much so I might look more like an ENTJ, or even an ESFP.

    Nevertheless, in person, I'd probably seem more just like a somewhat introverted ENTJ, or extroverted INTJ.

    Kinda like your results showing as an INFJ, but you really being an ENFJ.

    Very interesting...

    It all makes a good deal of sense.

    So, a couple questions:

    1. Do you think Ti is actually your new dominant function?

    2. If not, what do you think is your dominant function?

    3. If Fe, why do you think it didn't score as your top function on this test? Problem with the wording of the Fe prompts on the test? Perhaps your Fe is dominant (you seem like a pretty friendly, affable guy to me), but you've just consciously worked a lot on developing your other functions (Ti, especially), and so those might show up as "stronger" or "more developed", but Fe is still always running there in the background, as your genuine dominant function?

    4. Do you think your Ti is as highly developed as that of an INTP or ENTP, or do you just think it's highly developed for an ENFJ, but still not as developed as it would be in your average NTP?
    I gotta say: you ENFJs are throwing up some really interesting results...

    I always thought your functional stacking was the oddest of any type...

    And now you guys are adding even stranger permutations to an already odd mixture...
    Last edited by Zarathustra; 01-04-2011 at 01:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitseleh View Post
    So will you be making a thread about the patterns you've noticed across the board? I find this quite interesting.


    I'm kinda wondering that myself...

    I was kinda planning on stopping using typeC in the New Year, though...

    (Hence, why I've been using it so much lately...)

    And this would certainly require my attention for much more than just today...

    I dunno, we'll see... I do find the topic interesting, and it's sort of a culmination of my work here...

    I kinda feel like this is what I have been intending to do the whole time, so...

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    Well, Z, if you are leaving in the New Year, there are two and a half hours left in this time zone, so here are my results. I've tested as all sorts of types over the years, by the way. Some test I took the other day gave ENFJ so I'm posting here. And I was surprised to see that this test gave the same result. For once I got two in a row the same.



    Cognitive Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)
    extraverted Sensing (Se) ********************** (22.9)
    limited use
    introverted Sensing (Si) ************* (13.1)
    unused
    extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ************************************* (37.8)
    excellent use
    introverted Intuiting (Ni) **************************************** (40.8)
    excellent use
    extraverted Thinking (Te) ********************** (22.2)
    limited use
    introverted Thinking (Ti) ********************** (22.1)
    limited use
    extraverted Feeling (Fe) ***************************************** (41.7)
    excellent use
    introverted Feeling (Fi) *************************************** (39.6)
    excellent use

    Summary Analysis of Profile
    By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: ENFJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    So do you think you're an INFJ or ENFJ?
    I’m a hundred percent sure I’m ENFJ. I’m just a street bred high Ti one. The only times things will change are on functions tests, but my four primary ENFJ functions always remain consistent, just different strengths and different orders.

    75% of the time functions tests will say INFJ. On the rare occasion that I do test ISTP, it will only be because my Se tested higher than Fe at that given time. If I were to just break it down by letters it would also be consistently ENFJ. I’m far more extroverted than introverted and far more intuitive than sensor… And slightly more FJ than TP. I’ve never been uncertain about my type.

    1. Do you think Ti is actually your new dominant function?
    I’ve been wondering this lately, but after thinking about the Ti doms that I know and about how they’re primary mode of being is, I would have to say no. I’m definitely Ni dominant, but can switch to Ti when need be. In my normal state Ti seems to run some kind of odd auxiliary position trying to make sense of everything Ni is feeding me.

    I know what it feels like to have Fe operating as my dominant function because I can see how it would play out when I was younger, but I think I found Ni to be more useful and comfortable so it took over as my dominant. That will probably always be followed by Ti now though because my Ti is highly developed and it has to try and make sense of everything. Everything has to be filtered and processed through Ti now… and I’m most comfortable viewing things through Ni. I’m guessing extended periods of solitude led me to retreat further into my introverted functions as well.

    Whether Ni+Ti is always considered a negative loop, I’m not sure, all I know is that it works for me. My Fe is something that comes naturally easy now, so I think that’s why I’m able to shut it off with little effort. I think I’m able to do this though because it’s pretty balanced out with Fi not being too far behind in strength. So it allows me to not be the typical Fe zombie that other Fe dom/auxs can end up being.

    What I think I do have though is some kind of STP way of functioning that I switch back and forth from. Because since the STP shares the same functions as myself, all I’m really doing is just rearranging my four primary functions into a different order. I can see how this developed over time. Spending a lot of time on the streets when I was younger, my tert and inferior function combinations of Ti+Se and Se+Ti were often more necessary for survival. So that’s how I was forced to develop my tert and inferior functions.

    Not to mention criminal activity on the streets seems to promote very ESTP like behavior. So I seem to have this mode I switch from where my functions will reverse and I’ll become ISTP. Then depending on the situation I can switch to Se+Ti and do things like an ESTP. It’s kind of like I’ve had to develop my four functions so strongly that I can easily arrange my processes to switch from NFJ to STP while still remaining ENFJ as my core type.

    4. Do you think your Ti is as highly developed as that of an INTP or ENTP, or do you just think it's highly developed for an ENFJ, but still not as developed as it would be in your average NTP?
    My former best friend and partner in crime that I hung out with nearly every day for more than a decade was ENTP. The strength of our Ti was pretty much identical, but just different methods because my Ti is tied to Se. I’m a Ti monster now. So I can say with certainty that my Ti is going to be on the same level or better than the average STP. ExTPs are actually the type that I click with the easiest… both IRL and on this forum.

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    extraverted Sensing (Se) ******************** (20.7)
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    introverted Sensing (Si) ************************************* (37.3)
    excellent use

    extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ******************************* (31.4)
    good use

    introverted Intuiting (Ni) ***************************************** (41.5)
    excellent use

    extraverted Thinking (Te) ****************************** (30.2)
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    introverted Thinking (Ti) *********** (11)
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    extraverted Feeling (Fe) ****************************************** (42.6)
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    introverted Feeling (Fi) ************************** (26.1)
    average use

    Summary Analysis of Profile
    By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: ENFJ

    Lead (Dominant) Process
    Extraverted Feeling (Fe): Building trust through giving relationships. Empathically responding to others' needs and take on their needs and values as your own. Checking for respect and trust. Giving and receiving support to grow closer to people.

    Support (Auxilliary) Process
    Introverted Intuiting (Ni): Transforming with a meta-perspective. Withdrawing from the world and focusing your mind to receive an insight or realization. Checking if synergy results. Trying out a realization to transform things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Yes, that is very much in line with what I've come up with before.

    But here's a new insight I just thought of while reading your post: I was previously somewhat concerned concerned about the idea of integration, cuz, what if we actually cause problems for ourselves by integrating our shadow? I mean, might it not confuse you, or screw you up, and possibly cause you to lose some of your individuality by essentially shifting your dominant function from on attitude to another (for you, from Fe to Fi; for me, from Ni to Ne)? It took me long enough to get really good at using my Ni -- knowing how to listen to it, and keep an open mind to its postulations, but not necessarily buy into them just because they're bubbling up from under the surface -- so might it not be detrimental to just throw away all that work I put in to learning to use it well to just switch over to using Ne instead...? It's a bit worrisome, cuz it takes you out of your "comfort zone", your area of greatest strength and expertise, and throws you into a perspective which is much more unwieldy for you... would you say you went through something like this? And, if so, how did it feel, and what was it like? How did you respond in order to best deal with it?

    Hmmm... maybe I will make this thread...
    My realization was precipitated by a series of traumatic events, so it hit me hard and fast. Saying I was a mess would be an understatement. As you said, I had the whole Fe thing down to a science. At the risk of sounding full of myself, I was the golden girl - well-liked, popular, a successful business owner, the go-to girl amongst my friends (a whole boat-lead of 'em), physically fit, fashionable...typical enfj stuff. I knew how to do that and was damn good at it. When things happened - the economy crashed, my business screeched to a halt and my relationship ended, and I suddenly wasn't the golden girl. All of a sudden, I felt like a looser. I had to reevaluate my measure of success as a human being.

    I was pretty rotten at it. I went from rarely thinking about my internal world to obsessing about it. I was in a state of analysis paralysis for over a year. I went from rarely expressing my own needs to snapping at people and aggressively accusing people of being selfish. It was disastrous. Lucky for me I have a good group of friends who put up with all my crap and helped me get through it. I'm back to feeling normal now and really think in spite of everything, this has been good for me. I think I am becoming a much more balanced human being with a much more stable sense of self.

    I wish I could comment more on your Ne v Ni, but I am still learning about all of this. How would the difference in Ne V Ni manifest itself?
    "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. " - Dr. Seuss
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    Extroverted (E) 52.5%........Introverted (I) 47.5%
    Intuitive (N) 65.63%..........Sensing (S) 34.38%
    Feeling (F) 55.56%............Thinking (T) 44.44%
    Judging (J) 51.43%............Perceiving (P) 48.57%

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    extraverted Sensing (Se) ***************************** (29.4)
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    introverted Sensing (Si) ********************************* (33.8)
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    extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ********************* (21.5)
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    introverted Intuiting (Ni) ******************************* (31.9)
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    extraverted Thinking (Te) *************************** (27.7)
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    introverted Thinking (Ti) ******************* (19.1)
    limited use
    extraverted Feeling (Fe) ************************************** (38)
    excellent use
    introverted Feeling (Fi) ************************************** (38.8)
    excellent use

    It typed me as ISFJ.

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