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    I'm an introvert that loves interacting with others.
    It's when I need to 'recharge' that I don't want to be bothered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelchairdoug View Post
    i'm intrigued...
    Quote Originally Posted by Savage Brain View Post

    Oh yes, please elaborate on this assertion, I find it very intriguing.
    Social introversion

    "Introversion is not the same as shyness or the social outcast. Introverts choose solitary over social activities by preference, whereas shy people (who may be extroverts at heart) avoid social encounters out of fear and whereas the social outcast faces solitude, but not by choice."

    ~All About Shyness, Meredith Whitten, Psych Central, 21 Aug 2001; Accessed 2007-08-02

    Hans Eysenck described extroversion-introversion as the degree to which a person is outgoing and interactive with other people.

    ~Eysenck, H. J. (1967). The biological basis of personality.

    Cognitive Introversion

    According to Carl Jung, introversion and extroversion refer to the direction of psychic energy. If a person’s psychic energy usually flows outwards then he or she is an extrovert, while if the energy usually flows inwards, the person is an introvert.

    "Extroversion and Introversion are one of the preferences used in the Jungian Type Inventory. The naming is unfortunately a bit archaic as extroversion is not about being loud and introversion is not about being shy. It is about where people get their energy and motivation from: other people or within themselves."

    Extraversion

    "The energy of extroverts is outward, towards people and things. They need a lot of stimulation and often express emotions. They get their motivation from other people."

    Introversion

    "The energy of introverts is inward toward concepts and ideas. They need little external stimulation"

    Source.. http://changingminds.org/explanation..._introvert.htm

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    Jennifer: But I also am aware that I genuinely do like people of all sorts, even if I don't know how to interact with them.

    I overcome this by trying to reframe how I viewed things:
    - I am not a stupid, offensive person.
    - I am actually likeable.
    - Normal people won't think I am stupid or offensive or unlikeable if I make a gaff when talking to them or don't say everything as well as I could, they will be reasonable and I have to trust them.
    - If someone is unreasonable and judges me, I have the option to be fair to myself and frame it back as "their issue" if I review it and decide an average person would have responded differently.
    - There might be some people who don't like me and that is okay -- it's not my fault, necessarily, and doesn't mean I'm a bad person.
    Well-said - I think I will adapt some of these and ruminate on them a bit. And you worked through a LOT wrt to being able to socialize in a way that you found comfortable.

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    Arclight, do you feel like you are both? I noticed your "e" is small. I think I operate in both ways, but perhaps lean heavily towards the introversion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arclight View Post
    Social introversion

    "Introversion is not the same as shyness or the social outcast. Introverts choose solitary over social activities by preference, whereas shy people (who may be extroverts at heart) avoid social encounters out of fear and whereas the social outcast faces solitude, but not by choice."

    ~All About Shyness, Meredith Whitten, Psych Central, 21 Aug 2001; Accessed 2007-08-02

    Hans Eysenck described extroversion-introversion as the degree to which a person is outgoing and interactive with other people.

    ~Eysenck, H. J. (1967). The biological basis of personality.

    Cognitive Introversion

    According to Carl Jung, introversion and extroversion refer to the direction of psychic energy. If a person’s psychic energy usually flows outwards then he or she is an extrovert, while if the energy usually flows inwards, the person is an introvert.

    "Extroversion and Introversion are one of the preferences used in the Jungian Type Inventory. The naming is unfortunately a bit archaic as extroversion is not about being loud and introversion is not about being shy. It is about where people get their energy and motivation from: other people or within themselves."

    Extraversion

    "The energy of extroverts is outward, towards people and things. They need a lot of stimulation and often express emotions. They get their motivation from other people."

    Introversion

    "The energy of introverts is inward toward concepts and ideas. They need little external stimulation"

    Source.. http://changingminds.org/explanation..._introvert.htm
    interesting. from your description, it would sound like big 5 measures social extraversion, while mbti measures cognitive introversion (I actually score like 85 on big 5 extraversion, but when I take the mbti, I come out as introverted)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mochajava View Post
    Arclight, do you feel like you are both? I noticed your "e" is small. I think I operate in both ways, but perhaps lean heavily towards the introversion.
    I am very socially withdrawn (which is why I am on here a lot) But I am on here a lot because I like people.
    I have never scored an E ever in my life on any test except the test in "Please Understand Me"

    There is definitely a fine line between both my social and cognitive introversion and extroversion.

    I would say socially I lean towards extroversion and cognitively I lean towards Introversion. But I might have that backwards..
    It's really close

    I am also pretty close on the J/P side of things which controls the direction of the functions.. so it kind of makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mochajava View Post
    Arclight, do you feel like you are both? I noticed your "e" is small. I think I operate in both ways, but perhaps lean heavily towards the introversion.
    Here is the whole page on cognitive Introversion and Extroversion .. When reading this I relate to both on many levels and neither entirely.

    Extroversion

    The energy of extroverts is outward, towards people and things. They need a lot of stimulation and often express emotions. They get their motivation from other people.

    They often want to change the world (rather than think about it). Extroverts like variety, action and achievement. They do well at school but may find University more difficult.

    Their attitude is often relaxed and confident. They are understandable and accessible. They tend to act first and think later.

    At work, they seek variety and action and like working with other people. They prefer work that has breadth rather than depth.

    Introverts may see them as being shallow and pushy.

    Introversion

    The energy of introverts is inward toward concepts and ideas. They need little external stimulation - and in fact they can easily be over-stimulated. it is possible that they focus more on their inner worlds because they suffer from sensory overload if they spend too much time outside and focusing on other people. They thus bottle up their own emotions, which can explode if pushed too far.

    Rather than trying to change the world, they just want to understand it. They think deeply about things and often do better at University than they did at school.

    Their attitude is reserved and questioning and they can seem subtle and impenetrable. They tend to think before they act.
    At work they like to work alone and often seek quiet for concentration. They tend to prefer work that has depth rather than breadth.

    Extroverts may see them as egocentric and passive.

    There is a view that introverts may act as they do because they are more easily overwhelmed by external stimuli, as opposed to extroverts who have a higher basic stimulation threshold and need the more visceral external stimulation to avoid boredom.
    So what?

    With extroverts:

    * Show energy and enthusiasm.
    * Respond quickly without long pauses to think.
    * Allow talking out loud without definite conclusions.
    * Communicate openly - do not censure.
    * Focus on the external world, the people and the things.
    * Allow time for bouncing around ideas.
    * Take words at face value.
    * Do not assume commitment or decisions made.

    With introverts:

    * Include introduction time to get to know you and trust you.
    * Encourage responses with questions as, “What do you think?”
    * Use polling techniques for input and decision making.
    * Allow time for thinking before responding and decision-making.
    * Make use of written responses where practical.
    * Concentrate on one-on-one activities.
    * Do not assume lack of interest.

    I relate to the stuff in red.. some of it is very contradictory

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    I think almost all people need friends, even if it's just one or two. I'd be tempted to speculate that people with no friends are cognitively different from the rest of humanity. It's a very human thing to be connected.

    If you're lonely and shy, it doesn't mean you're an introvert or an extrovert. Introverts can be shy too, and are probably even more likely to be shy than extroverts. It's more helpful to think about how you might interact if you weren't shy. If someone you know very well comes over unexpectedly and stays for a few hours, you probably aren't shy but are you drained? That kind of thing.
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    The thing that distinguishes introverts from extraverts is the amount of stimulation they need to function well. Introverts need silence and serenity, extraverts need noise and excitement. Social behaviour has little to do with it. Lots of introverts see friendships as a basic life need, but I, a pretty unsocial extravert, think maintaining friendships is unnecessary luxury. So if you like quite and peace, your a true introvert. Shyness has by the way also a lot to do with neuroticism, not just introversion. And what about social pressure?
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    Hopefully this won't be offensive to anyone but this introversion/extroversion concept nags me.

    If by defining introversion/extroversion by charging with or without other people, we have to question why the difference of recharging. Do introverts (and I still might be one myself since some people drain me badly and others charge) lean towards a tendency to want to control the interaction, that in anticipating how the interaction would go, feel drained when it doesn't go the expected way so more energy must be put into the interaction to reroute it to anticipated results?

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