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    Default How does Te manifest in FPs?

    I've always had trouble understanding this.
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    NO!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sherlock Holmes View Post
    I've always had trouble understanding this.
    ExFPs: Become very action oriented, and can have a surprisingly organized skeletal structure underneath the surface-level mayhem. However, can be inconsistent (or even resentful) in using said organized skeletal structure. They can throw themselves into organizing everything, creating spreadsheets, etc. Can look a bit like ExTJs. They often love debate, but tend to be very passionate and often personally invested when engaging in it. Experimental with situations, activities, or people.

    IxFPs: Embrace Te often in the grips of an inferior "all-or-nothing" manner. It can take the form of a Te sledgehammer when dealing with people, where all the warmth and sensitivity suddenly disappear. Or they finally buckle down and methodically get things done. Can often reflect on the rules and reasonings underlying the personal meaning of various things.

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    Meh, I still think my answer is better....

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    Orobas has written about ENFPs having a baby ESTJ inside them and it's true! I would never have thought, but in particular situations, it comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    ExFPs: Become very action oriented, and can have a surprisingly organized skeletal structure underneath the surface-level mayhem. However, can be inconsistent (or even resentful) in using said organized skeletal structure. They can throw themselves into organizing everything, creating spreadsheets, etc. Can look a bit like ExTJs. They often love debate, but tend to be very passionate and often personally invested when engaging in it. Experimental with situations, activities, or people.

    IxFPs: Embrace Te often in the grips of an inferior "all-or-nothing" manner. It can take the form of a Te sledgehammer when dealing with people, where all the warmth and sensitivity suddenly disappear. Or they finally buckle down and methodically get things done. Can often reflect on the rules and reasonings underlying the personal meaning of various things.
    Oh yeah, ESFPs are known to be sort of 'party planners' aren't they?
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    I wrote this for another board...

    In INFPs, Extroverted Thinking, the inferior process, mainly aids Fi & is turned to when Ne fails to see an adequate way to express Fi or to act in the external world; it requires a lot of energy & tends to be last resort, making it appear most when stressed. Te logic is used to support Feeling values, to establish their relevancy in the real world (outside of the imagined ideal in the Fi-dom's head), & to organize thoughts in a manner comprehensible to others. It can also help the INFP judge Ne ideas as too removed from factual reality, as Fi may latch onto these ideas if they are close to a feeling value. Inferior Te use makes the INFP in danger of discarding facts that do not support Fi values, or blowing them out of proportion when they support a feeling. It can also show up negatively when an INFP deems something important, then this cause must be handled "perfectly" and then Te is trotted out to determine how to do things "correctly". This can result in being very critical and exacting, but often it is turned inward, and the INFP sees themselves as falling short moreso than other people or the situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fidelia View Post
    Orobas has written about ENFPs having a baby ESTJ inside them and it's true! I would never have thought, but in particular situations, it comes out.
    I either turn into an ESTJ (I consider this a good, action oriented day) or an ENTJ (nitpicky braying jackass day)- by saying that I don't mean ENTJs are jackasses, I mean that's what that particular shadow turns into on me, personally.

    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    ExFPs: Become very action oriented, and can have a surprisingly organized skeletal structure underneath the surface-level mayhem. However, can be inconsistent (or even resentful) in using said organized skeletal structure. They can throw themselves into organizing everything, creating spreadsheets, etc. Can look a bit like ExTJs. They often love debate, but tend to be very passionate and often personally invested when engaging in it. Experimental with situations, activities, or people.

    IxFPs: Embrace Te often in the grips of an inferior "all-or-nothing" manner. It can take the form of a Te sledgehammer when dealing with people, where all the warmth and sensitivity suddenly disappear. Or they finally buckle down and methodically get things done. Can often reflect on the rules and reasonings underlying the personal meaning of various things.
    This is very accurate.

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    I get angry at people for being incompetent, whiny, annoying, stupid, irrational... When Fi is angry and Ne is shut down and Si is overwhelmed, I reach out with my Te and bite who ever's pissing me off.

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    I had never thought of Te with ENFPs before coming here, but I discovered that what I react to most especially in ENFPs under stress is their Te-ish side breaking out to problem solve. It feels bossy and overprescriptive and presumptuous to me as a Ti user. However, at it's best, it makes them concise writers, and makes them very productive and get-'er-done-ish. I think their combo of functions is what makes INTJs find their silliness charming. There's still Te, but it's tempered with Ne and Fi as well.

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