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    Quote Originally Posted by guesswho View Post
    I can't believe you are even considering House to be ENFP.
    He is not interested in people. He is interested in their mechanisms. He doesn't even take feelings in consideration. He is logical and rational. He isn't empathic. He doesn't even connect to the feelings of others most of the time.
    None of which has anything to do with Fi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Absurd generality on my part. Basically everyone thought Stark (a snarky and apparently cool-headed dick) was ENTP, and everyone thinks House (same) is ENTP or INTJ, and I drew a wild-ass guess as to why that was.

    I blame Ne.
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    I could see Stark as an ENFP, because Robert Downey Jr. is probably an ENFP. There are remnants from the ENTJ Stark from the comics too, but it's hard to see the film version as either Te or Ti, simply because RDJ personalizes that role a lot (that or it seems written with a lot of his personality in mind).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Not hunches, axioms. He bends around every situation to fit it to his stubborn principle that people are self-serving and have ulterior motives with no exceptions. "Everybody lies" is just a subset of this.


    Which is why I'm examining why House believes what he believes.
    yeah, but that's still what makes me think he's not an ENFP. ENFPs usually have deep beliefs, but they're not really logically solid in the way they interpret them. house is, though.

    None of which has anything to do with Fi.
    wait though, it does - i feel like it's a very subtle difference because Ti and Fi are parallel processes that both analyze internal significance and functioning, and Ti + Fe can look like Fi and Fi + Te can look like Ti. but house is interested in the internal mechanisms of people, and not at all the thoughts and opinions of the people themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vamp View Post
    I don't know much about the Tony Stark character besides the basics. I just want to know who doesn't believe NFs can be snarky? I've never heard of that before.
    oh, i didn't mean stark. i don't have an opinion on him (yet), i just like the character. i was just agreeing with what aleksei said about how Fi users can believe anything. sorry, that was unclear.

    i'm hella snarky. so is my ENFJ good friend.

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    Yeah, gut instinct is the character does not 'seem' ENFP-ish. And as someone pointed out, examples of ENFP jerks would be more like Michael Scott in 'The Office'. Full of themselves, has no idea the impact they have on others or how they are perceived, etc. ENFP jerks are dramatic and annoying because they are too over the top.

    House is a jerk in a very Ti kind of way. All he cares about is solving the puzzle and being right. Neither in the acting nor the writing do I see any hints he is supposed to be a troubled or angry or whatnot ENFP. He seems like a straight-up dick in a very hard-edged, callous, self-important NT way, specifically ENTP or INTJ way. I could see ENFP if he ever wavered from that shtick but he's very 1 dimensional - dick/dick/dick/quiet contemplative moment/dick/dick/dick.
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    House is such an ENTP. I don't know how many times Aleksei has to be told this, and by how many people.

    The root cause probably lies in the fact that he's in denial about his own ENTP status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    i'm hella snarky. so is my ENFJ good friend.
    NFs definitely should be cast in their proper light: to be feared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    House is such an ENTP. I don't know how many times Aleksei has to be told this, and by how many people.

    The root cause probably lies in the fact that he's in denial about his own ENTP status.
    You are developing a knack for discrediting people on the basis of their supposed self-mistyping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moiety View Post
    You are developing a knack for discrediting people on the basis of their supposed self-mistyping.
    Do you lack a sense of humor as well as a sex drive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    Do you lack a sense of humor as well as a sex drive?


    lol

    i agree Sytpg is in a need for sex therapy..


    now, who will do something about that?

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