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    sometimes I've thought some fellow NFs were SFs or NTs or whatever. Unless they're obvious. I don't think another NF would think I'm another NF even. Those in the matrix are not what they appear...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vamp View Post
    Then leave it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    I've met people of every type who do this...

    As well as people who are interested in you for other reasons, people who are trying to sell you something (and there are different ways to try and sell someone something) will fix their gaze intently on you. I'm inclined to agree with marmalade on this one.
    I think you and marmalade are missing the gist of this thread just because you choose to fixate on the more superstitious responses. The gist is: NFs tend to have NF friends. I certainly did and I haven't found that kind of kinship since, for whatever reason. And like another poster I'm tired of being told I make no sense by people who are presumbaly S. There is something like "link up" when you meet another person that might be an NF or NT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    No.
    Then stop fixating on the muck, switch to the substance and trying to paint any NF kinship as offensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vamp View Post
    Then stop fixating on the muck, switch to the substance and trying to paint any NF kinship as offensive.
    My posts were of substance. I'm pointing out that you guys are wrong. That is substance, and I never said NF kinship was offensive, I said I often feel understood by NF women.

    You're always telling other people how to behave in threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vamp View Post
    I think you and marmalade are missing the gist of this thread just because you choose to fixate on the more superstitious responses. The gist is: NFs tend to have NF friends. I certainly did and I haven't found that kind of kinship since, for whatever reason. And like another poster I'm tired of being told I make no sense by people who are presumbaly S. There is something like "link up" when you meet another person that might be an NF or NT.
    That can certainly be the case. After I started looking into MBTI I discovered that at least three of my best friends tested INFJ (though I'm only convinced that one of them is INFJ...the other two are likely to be, I think, but I'm not sure.) I know that I have felt intense connections with Ns on numerous occasions. Of course, I have sometimes felt intense connections with other types but it may stem from other causes than a recognition of an intuitive approach to life.

    I just have a problem with the "look in the eye" thing, really. Of course, I also don't believe in love at first sight And the "look in the eye" thing was basically the whole starting point of the thread. It just seems to stem from some of NF's worst "we are utterly intuitive" tendencies. Particularly INFJs, and I speak as an INFJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    +1. I think maybe after some deep conversation you might get a better idea that someone is NF...but otherwise...this sounds to me like the all-too-typical "NFs are completely intuitive! We can always read people with 100% accuracy and are NEVER wrong about another human being! It has never happened! Not even once!"...sort of thing.

    Sorry.
    I don't see the thread as a pat on the back thing at all. I don't think anyone here said they are never wrong about another human being. Intuitives may naturally pick up on certain things but it's no different than the other strengths of the odd, wonderful and endless variety of souls out there. To describe intuition and how it works and how it feels to connect with other intuitive feelers or thinkers is just that: sharing how it feels to live in your skin. As an NF I've had to adjust to most of the other types because they're not as skilled at adjusting to my preferences. With other NFs or NTs, I can relax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    I just have a problem with the "look in the eye" thing, really. Of course, I also don't believe in love at first sight And the "look in the eye" thing was basically the whole starting point of the thread. It just seems to stem from some of NF's worst "we are utterly intuitive" tendencies. Particularly INFJs, and I speak as an INFJ.
    It's not a conceit to say that that you can look someone in the eye and fall in love or see a kindred soul. It happens. Sometimes it may take a while to realize it's love, but that first look, you know something is cooking or in some cases is already fully baked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    My posts were of substance. I'm pointing out that you guys are wrong. That is substance, and I never said NF kinship was offensive, I said I often feel understood by NF women.

    You're always telling other people how to behave in threads.
    If you notice I said nothing as superstitious as "NFs are the only type that looks others in the eyes" but whatever, you just hate NFs feeling good about being NFs. We should all kowtow and kiss other types asses because they have it rough despite being the majority in the world.

    I don't even believe intuition is soley an N-thing or that intuitives are somehow "deep".

    You focused on the bad. And saw everything wrong with an NF finally being happy to be an NF. I guess the only acceptable thing is self loathing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    That can certainly be the case. After I started looking into MBTI I discovered that at least three of my best friends tested INFJ (though I'm only convinced that one of them is INFJ...the other two are likely to be, I think, but I'm not sure.) I know that I have felt intense connections with Ns on numerous occasions. Of course, I have sometimes felt intense connections with other types but it may stem from other causes than a recognition of an intuitive approach to life.

    I just have a problem with the "look in the eye" thing, really. Of course, I also don't believe in love at first sight And the "look in the eye" thing was basically the whole starting point of the thread. It just seems to stem from some of NF's worst "we are utterly intuitive" tendencies. Particularly INFJs, and I speak as an INFJ.
    I don't believe the poster's intent was all that anti-S or anti-other type.
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