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    So I was talking to my INTJ friend this weekend about our heads, our thoughts, how our brains work differently and I came up with a really good analogy to try and help people to better understand my ENFP brain (atleast I think it's a good analogy).

    My friend explained to me that for him, every thought every action, every event has a specific relation to something else. His world is relatively logical and sequential. Event A happend to me today and I felt B. Then event C happend and I felt D. For him, A will only ever relate to B, and C will only ever be related to D. In his world everything is grounded, its weighted down: A will never relate to D.

    In my world, it's as if I'm in space and there is no gravity. There is no weight to anything. So if Event A made me feel B and event C made me feel D, D and B are now just emotions floating around that seep into anything and everything they can get their hands on. They might mix with other events or combine together with other emotions. I find it really hard to be able to seperate and put into context where everything else originated from. All I am left with at the end of an intense day is a muggy view of a world filled with drifting bits of feelings and moods that attach themselves to everything else in my head.

    This world is amazing when filled with lush happy feelings, because my mood is elevated exponentially: everything is intertwined so it seems like my experiences are further heightened.


    Don't know how any other ENFP's or NF people relate to this but this was the best description that I could come up with.

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    I didn't really understand but I can tell you my world does have gravity. It's called Fi.

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    Very true. I can very much relate. It's the Ne. This is what FiTe is for though. Learn it, use it, and catalogue those emotions with Te after judging their worth with Fi. Then tie them off. It'll help you stay grounded. Fun part of it is...you can decide not to when it's good emotions and build on that. Or you learn to use emotions from one event to boost your emotional strenght in another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sioul
    They might mix with other events or combine together with other emotions. I find it really hard to be able to seperate and put into context where everything else originated from.
    Quote Originally Posted by Satine View Post
    It's the Ne. This is what FiTe is for though. Learn it, use it, and catalogue those emotions with Te after judging their worth with Fi. Then tie them off. It'll help you stay grounded.
    yes!!

    i agree with you, sioul, and i like satine's system. experience emotion/feeling, judge value, classify it and analyze its usefulness, and then either choose to keep it around because it's lovely and/or helpful, or choose to ditch it because it doesn't need to apply.

    i had a really shitty situation the other day (someone screwed me over very badly for no reason other than her own incompetence and selfishness) that i tried to work like this with. i was angry and hurt afterwards, and i went for a bike ride to distract my mind, felt the wonderful endorphin surge, and at that point looked at the situation again and judged that it sucked and i was rightfully pissed off, but there was no sense in being down about it. i still associate anger with that woman and that event - which i plan to deal with calmly but firmly when i see her again - but i'm not gonna let that negativity seep over into everything else. i don't deserve emotional baggage because of someone else's injustice. (nor does anyone else i interact with! had to tell my mom i couldn't talk with her until after my bike ride... i just would have yelled...)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sioul
    This world is amazing when filled with lush happy feelings, because my mood is elevated exponentially: everything is intertwined so it seems like my experiences are further heightened.
    Quote Originally Posted by Satine
    Fun part of it is...you can decide not to when it's good emotions and build on that. Or you learn to use emotions from one event to boost your emotional strenght in another.


    i love that word, "lush".

    is it ridiculous that i sort of think of the patronus charm from harry potter when i hear this?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Satine View Post
    Very true. I can very much relate. It's the Ne. This is what FiTe is for though. Learn it, use it, and catalogue those emotions with Te after judging their worth with Fi. Then tie them off. It'll help you stay grounded. Fun part of it is...you can decide not to when it's good emotions and build on that. Or you learn to use emotions from one event to boost your emotional strenght in another.

    Start small though
    Wow Satine, what a concept huh? I've never thought about this that way, wouldn't it be great if I did learn to let my Te jump in when it had to, and tuck it away when I'm experiencing something amazing and positive? If I could only manage to do this, I would look at my whole ENFP scenario as more of a blessing and less of a curse... haha

    So how did you manage to be able to do this? It's so hard for me to use my Te when my Fi has already decided what something is worth...are there some techniques that you have employed or was it more of a maturing thing.


    i love that word, "lush".

    is it ridiculous that i sort of think of the patronus charm from harry potter when i hear this?


    I don't think it's ridiculous at all this is close to the reference image in my head when I'm talking about having your emotions drift everywhere without any control.

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    Beautiful description, I can definitely relate. I am floating without anchor in a sea of possibilities and emotions.

    For Ni (and a lot of 'normal' people) ... A+B is Always C.
    For me ... A+B can be C, D, E, F, G, H, I, a combination of two...anything anything, everything.

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    it is a fabulous analogy, i hadnt noticed that about myself until now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sioul View Post
    So I was talking to my INTJ friend this weekend about our heads, our thoughts, how our brains work differently and I came up with a really good analogy to try and help people to better understand my ENFP brain (atleast I think it's a good analogy).

    My friend explained to me that for him, every thought every action, every event has a specific relation to something else. His world is relatively logical and sequential. Event A happend to me today and I felt B. Then event C happend and I felt D. For him, A will only ever relate to B, and C will only ever be related to D. In his world everything is grounded, its weighted down: A will never relate to D.

    In my world, it's as if I'm in space and there is no gravity. There is no weight to anything. So if Event A made me feel B and event C made me feel D, D and B are now just emotions floating around that seep into anything and everything they can get their hands on. They might mix with other events or combine together with other emotions. I find it really hard to be able to seperate and put into context where everything else originated from. All I am left with at the end of an intense day is a muggy view of a world filled with drifting bits of feelings and moods that attach themselves to everything else in my head.

    This world is amazing when filled with lush happy feelings, because my mood is elevated exponentially: everything is intertwined so it seems like my experiences are further heightened.


    Don't know how any other ENFP's or NF people relate to this but this was the best description that I could come up with.
    It took me a couple of readings to understand what you were saying but once I did it reminded me of something I just noticed about myself.

    My life was just one big, fuzzy blur. All my emotions would get into anything I did. I am a moody person but sometimes the bleeding of emotions is just not good. Especially when you can't even identify where the emotions came from in the first place. It's madness.

    When I had to force myself to sit down and think about what was going on with me that's when the patterns and causes became clear. I don't know what function that's exercising but writing stream of consciousness style helped me get a grip. Literally, I have a much better grasp on my emotions. It's not as great as other peoples' but it's working for me. Clarity is a beautiful thing.
    George Bernard Shaw in cartoon form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebe View Post
    Beautiful description, I can definitely relate. I am floating without anchor in a sea of possibilities and emotions.

    For Ni (and a lot of 'normal' people) ... A+B is Always C.
    For me ... A+B can be C, D, E, F, G, H, I, a combination of two...anything anything, everything.
    I'm curious as to why you related normal people to Ni? I lead with my Ne, I always thought that Ne was more of a normal thing because your making sense of all these patterns and big picture patterns in an external way, they have no way of spiralling into something else completely unrelated in my head...

    Sometimes for me A+B = 1.4678 and 2 red bunnies

    Quote Originally Posted by Vamp View Post
    It took me a couple of readings to understand what you were saying but once I did it reminded me of something I just noticed about myself.

    My life was just one big, fuzzy blur. All my emotions would get into anything I did. I am a moody person but sometimes the bleeding of emotions is just not good. Especially when you can't even identify where the emotions came from in the first place. It's madness.

    When I had to force myself to sit down and think about what was going on with me that's when the patterns and causes became clear. I don't know what function that's exercising but writing stream of consciousness style helped me get a grip. Literally, I have a much better grasp on my emotions. It's not as great as other peoples' but it's working for me. Clarity is a beautiful thing.
    I can relate to this completely. If I am overwhelmed with a feeling, then that one feeling will dominate over everything....Events or occurences that have nothing do do with that feeling become completely tainted and washed in it's colour. We should both probablly take the advice earlier of learning to let our Te come in and make sense of it all and try and put all the pieces back in place...

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    it's not such the great thing that our predominant feeling at the time colors everything else...just yesterday i was stressed about something and read some comment on here from someone and responded all tebitchslap style kinda haha...like just kinda mean really...and then for some reason reread it which i never do before posting...and read his comment again and was like...oh wtf they didn't really say what i thought they said and i just let em have it for nothing... so i didn't post it...totally weird...doesn't happen often...normally it's the opposite...like i'm in a really good mood so i'm really hard to piss off even if the situation warrants it...or i will get mad at someone but can't stay mad because my mind goes to the next thing so quickly and i can't hold onto different emotions at the same time....or something...am i just rambling?
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