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    Ah. Well..drugs never led me to any concrete conclusion other than "it's all an illusion", if that. My own life experiences made their own contributions, as well.

    what is it exactly that you're looking for? I see you're looking for your own niche, but what does that mean to you? and also why you seek the answer from drugs...doing so isn't necessarily bad or good (in and of itself), but they might not offer what you want to find.
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    I'm not an NF- but I can imagine NF's (NFP's and NFJ's alike) finding a lot of interest in drugs.
    NFP's- simply because drugs are something new/adventurous.
    NFJ's- due to a tertiary/inferior Se.. I can use my inferior Se to explain my alcoholic tendencies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stringstheory View Post
    Ah. Well..drugs never led me to any concrete conclusion other than "it's all an illusion", if that. My own life experiences made their own contributions, as well.

    what is it exactly that you're looking for? I see you're looking for your own niche, but what does that mean to you? and also why you seek the answer from drugs...doing so isn't necessarily bad or good (in and of itself), but they might not offer what you want to find.
    I came to a similar feeling to it being an illusion, I just don't know where to go from there. How do I find something I feel will actually mean something? My niche is just a place where I can make things more real if you understand. I haven't done any drugs in a month or so after having explored for about a year. I'm considering buying a tiny home I can pull behind a truck and wandering around the country.

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    LSD and Mushrooms helped me to be way more open minded and more wise. I first tried them when I was 17. I dont think I will ever do Mushrooms again...the last few times I did them I had bad trips, its to much of an intense mind f*ck for me.

    DMT is amazing, its definitely one with the universe type sh*t- best visuals EVER!

    Forget cocaine- it ruins lives if it is abused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stringstheory View Post
    Ahh ok

    like nolla, it wasn't so much that weed gave me a feeling of experiencing different perceptions. it allows me to wade through already established perceptions, but not anything that's "new", or earth-shattering... it just allows me to perceive THOSE perceptions differently.

    Wow that sounds like a very stoner thing to say. But there is a difference, I think. depending on if I smoke something that gives me a "body high" or a "mind high". In my head i see it like a sliding scale; for example when i'm "sober" I possess Extraverted Sensing but it's not nearly as well developed as my Extraverted Intuition, so i lean more towards a "mind high" on the scale. with weed I can either tip the scale ever more towards a mind high (Ne), or towards a body high (Se), but nothing beyond what is already "established". Keep in mind i'm generalising here, but using N and S perceptions as a reference point.

    hallucinogens like acid, shrooms, and salvia are what gave me the feeling of experiencing "new" perceptions. It deconstructed everything I perceived to exist to pieces and rebuilt and reconstructed over and over again. I saw things beyond "N" and "S". Any and all categories that previously existed were destroyed. It was a little scary and a lot beautiful. i can relate to feeling like a free-floating particle in this sense.

    What I did find interesting is that colours and strong visuals were not the "highlights" of any of these trips except salvia, which is how they've traditionally been described. Instead they were rather....conceptual. I don't know what that means beyond interesting^^
    Haha I love that this post is by a female! You rock! Haven't encountered many girls open to this sort of experimentation and intellectual approach to drugs...mostly they just wanna get "F'd up" and party in my experience

    When I smoke, I'm only looking for the head high. I become super extroverted and can't even sit still or be quiet. I just need to go out and about and socialize, and words flow more easily...think: Ni put on display to the world. My friends look at me in shock because they haven't seen that sort of behavior before, but I think they are entertained.

    My experiences with psychedelics has been largely cerebral as well, lacking visual stuff. With LSD, I remember writing down that I felt like a 360 view of the world because I could see how everything was working....simultaneously...and could zero in and out like I was playing a toy model of the planet; and making connections that shocked my strong Ni which was weird. I also made some huge internal discoveries during that time about the world that hold true today and I wouldn't have figured out otherwise..LSD must be the ultimate creative drug because the inventor of the method for mass copying DNA molecules made the discovery while on the drug. So not everything is an illusion, and you can discover yourself and the world for the person asking. I mean, I figured out a system for betting on the NFL that handicappers in Vegas would envy, and I sucked before haha

    With salvia it was just another story...I felt my body instantly being pulled through what felt like a wormhole into a whole new dimension where the molecules of my body made up the fabric of space and time...The world was being twisted and manipulated and I felt it mapped on my body like a voodoo doll or something, and I became interconnected with an infinite number of tiny female entities that surrounded me and were connected to my fabric, tugging me in different directions and chanting for me to go with them....I tried to fully embrace them as my own but the last thing I remember was being told that I was not ready...this whole thing took like 1 minute but it felt like forever

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    Last time I smoked I had a horrible mind fuck. So, Im off drugs. I've had some really bad trips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fecaleagle View Post
    Haven't encountered many girls open to this sort of experimentation and intellectual approach to drugs...mostly they just wanna get "F'd up" and party in my experience
    heh, to be fair i can't say i personally encounter many more guys open to this kind of experience either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheStarchDefenders View Post
    How did your perception change after? Was it a good or bad thing? What niche did you find yourself in after? Is there anywhere you fit?
    I've tried MDMA and weed. Weed can bite me, never cared much for smoking it. MDMA was great, but not so much the actual high. It was post-experience that I really got something from it, while discussing with my best bud and drawing all sorts of conclusions from it.
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    I studied a lot about some drugs before even attempting to experiment. I didn't want to have a high. I wanted to learn more about the world with them.

    Next step is acid. But I'm waiting for the right time and context. And I got some salvia with me, but I don't want to do it for a while still.

    I learned quite a lot with MDMA. I analyzed why everything seemed better, why people responded better to my inconvenient approaches. But I could go on and on about it here, but I won't. I also learned that most people that did MDMA I was with...didn't care one bit about actually learning something from it. It was all social and dancing...but no everlasting conclusions.

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    My highs around people are very hot & cold.
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    i am kind of hesitant to do mind-altering drugs for the fear that my mind will go into that place and never be willing to return

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