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    Marching around and telling people they're wrong and showing glaring Fe (probably ENTP tert Fe, from the strength of it) isn't really showing wisdom or intelligence either.

    It's just showing your opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    The idea is this, and this goes back to the OP. Just because you want to be heard or because you want to vent, doesn't mean you should. Deciding the best course of action requires that you appreciate the consequences of your course of action. With venting, for example, research shows that venting is not cathartic. It might make you feel better in the moment, but in the long run, it leaves you feeling more frustrated. If you want to feel better, then don't vent. Likewise, as I've argued, muting the community's objections so a poster can feel "heard" is a bad idea; even though it might feel good to one person in the short run, in the long run the community as well as the person suffer. Wonkavision took this for granted and made the same mistake you did, equating feels good immediately ("I want") with wise and intelligent.
    I think it's pretty clear that what I've outlined is not "venting" in the sense that is described in the article you posted...and what I outlined was an elaboration on the OP. You even said we're not talking about "venting", and yet you're making a whole lot of assumptions about what's going on on our end of an exchange like this (and on the other end) as if we were. I don't see how this has to do with what the OP was outlining unless you're attempting to make connections with whatever Wonka's other threads were about, a point he's already addressed. If you have a point you can use what we've been going on so far, not the data that will make us wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    lulz I majored in English you freak and was a straight A student, I also minored in French and was president of Alpha Mu Gamma one year
    I used me and you intentionally. ME FIRST.
    What the heeeell do we dooomb English majors know no know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    What the heeeell do we dooomb English majors know no know?
    I ain't sure.

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    Yeah, there's a big difference between expressing yourself in writing and going around breaking people's things.

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    Wow this thread has taken an unnecessary and nasty turn. I don't really see how venting = what the OP is saying and the problem is I think both parties see that. Why are we even down this track?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    Yeah, there's a big difference between expressing yourself in writing and going around breaking people's things.
    Yeah, I was just coming back to make a similar point after having read that article. I agree that punching things and yelling and screaming would tend to become its own high after a while--and it would also tend to indicate anger management issues.

    The type of venting I had in mind, though, is the type of venting where someone is trying to make sense of their emotions so they DON'T have to take it out on someone else. They're talking out the situation to a third party (even if they appear angry) because of the frustration of the situation, and the third party listens and helps them direct their anger or frustration into a manageable or constructive avenue. I think that is perfectly healthy, and I think too often we don't talk about something we're frustrated about, and then loop on our own (often errant or incomplete) understanding of the situation, and THAT is what causes more anger and negative emotion. Talking it through with a friend is the healthiest thing you can do in these situations, in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by animenagai View Post
    Wow this thread has taken an unnecessary and nasty turn.
    And it did so right here:
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    Well, your 2 cents, like most coinage, is covered in filth and excrement that can not always be seen with the naked eye, but is there, nonetheless.

    But I appreciate your 2 cents anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallulah View Post
    The type of venting I had in mind, though, is the type of venting where someone is trying to make sense of their emotions so they DON'T have to take it out on someone else. They're talking out the situation to a third party (even if they appear angry) because of the frustration of the situation, and the third party listens and helps them direct their anger or frustration into a manageable or constructive avenue. I think that is perfectly healthy, and I think too often we don't talk about something we're frustrated about, and then loop on our own (often errant or incomplete) understanding of the situation, and THAT is what causes more anger and negative emotion. Talking it through with a friend is the healthiest thing you can do in these situations, in my opinion.
    Yes exactly; most of the frustration, at least that I experience, comes from the fact that conflict has nowhere to go and yet cannot quite be sorted out internally just yet. So it has to go outwards for pre-sorting first. The kind of "venting" that appears to be defined as taking out frustrations on a target isn't how I understood the OP at all.
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    Hilarious.

    People have twisted this issue into so many things its not, that it's impossible to even untangle it anymore.

    It's just too absurd now!

    Someone even quoted my statement about Edahn's 2 cents as an example of my nastiness and evil intentions. :rolli:

    It was so obviously a joke and even included one of these:

    There is NO objectivity, or respect, or sense of humor, or anything else resembling normal communication or understanding.

    What a farce!
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