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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan Le Fay View Post
    So it wasn't calling it fear that was the problem, just misunderstanding the source of that fear.
    Well I can understand the reluctance to call it fear though. Calling it fear sort of presupposes that we feel a similar urge to get to know people faster but we're afraid to act on it. I don't think that's the case.
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    There is TOO much F-ness in here.

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    Actually I'd love to see a similar thread on Ti vs Te, as it would teach me more about how to use and comprehend Ti
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    Quote Originally Posted by You'reWrongI'mRight View Post
    There is TOO much F-ness in here.
    That coming from someone who once said she was ENFP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    But if the way you do it doesn't work, you aren't throwing out the bacteria-filled ingredients, you're leaving them in the fridge for someone else to eat, possibly unknowingly or possibly someone that has no choice and might even have a weakened immune system. If you're going to put yourself through hell, why wouldn't you want to go to the trouble to actually get some results for your actions?

    Or is it more of an emotional, knee-jerk reaction? I've certainly done those before myself because the injustice of a situation made me *so* angry that I couldn't force myself to be more calm and constructive.
    But we're not dealing with children or intellectually challenged adults; we're dealing with adults here. They have all the resources available to them to decide what's important to them. All the cards were laid out on the table. No one was underinformed.

    Everyone made their decisions like adults--PB, her employer with knowingly not meeting his legal obligation, and her co-workers, who could have seized the opportunity of making things better with PB taking the heat by being background support.

    When adults make informed decisions I like to let them do that. But surely I'd also let these decisions inform me of their character and what they might decide to do when something even bigger was on the line (e.g. the Erin Brocovich story with the plant giving the town cancer and everyone turning their backs). Why on earth would I want to be spending 40 hours a week with people who don't demonstrate the kind of character I want to see and enact in this world?

    I'm only human too, and being surrounded by people not willing to demonstrate good character is going to tempt me to take the easy road in life. I don't want the easy road. I want the road where I can be a good human that makes this world a better place. I'd rather surround myself with people of good character than give myself the baggage of dealing with people who not only are not stepping up to the plate for things they should be, but won't even back me up if I step out from the crowd to make things better.

    I've got good things to do in this world. I'm not wasting time or energy on people that are holding me back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satine View Post
    Actually I'd love to see a similar thread on Ti vs Te, as it would teach me more about how to use and comprehend Ti
    Well, I think the issue there is that the Fi/Fe divide is far more heated than the Ti/Te divide. People typically don't get their toes stepped on when Ti/Te butts heads as much, it doesn't challenge identity and personal freedoms/values.

    Thus, we don't much care to discuss it, except maybe academically. I figure such a thread is probably good for 50 posts before people get bored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z Buck McFate View Post
    Well I can understand the reluctance to call it fear though. Calling it fear sort of presupposes that we feel a similar urge to get to know people faster but we're afraid to act on it. I don't think that's the case.
    Ah ok.
    I guess I just assumed you wouldn't reject someone's friendly overtures (likely to hurt/offend them) other because you were afraid of getting hurt/put upon in some way yourself (hence the references to identity theft/burglary etc).
    It didn't occur to me that you might not care about hurting them!
    Or is it that you wouldn't find that kind of rejection hurtful yourself, and so fail to see why others might?

    Can you explain what is so important about the pacing?
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    Still..it would be interesting to see the inner mechanics of those two functions as well..especially Ti for me at least, so I have *some* idea of what it looks like. If you see what kind of info came out of these threads as to how people experience Fi and Fe and what kind of logic, mechanics, motivation etc contributes to these behaviors and how they fit together as a puzzle...and I still think we barely scratched the surface. It would be interesting to see the same kinda detail on Ti and Te.
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    ^ make a thread, make a thread (but it would be best to get doms and aux's discussing, not us so much I think)
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    When people see some things as good,
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    Exactly, which is why I won't start it.
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