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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalach View Post
    Dr Kalach, at your service. Making love to implications since 1917.

    And I notice no ENFPs talking about the need for ritual and how the physical space needs to be right for it to be right. Hmmmm, how implicative!
    I forget how much I adore INTJs. You are absolutely ADORABLE Kalach. This made me smile... and think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esoteric Wench View Post
    I forget how much I adore INTJs. You are absolutely ADORABLE Kalach. This made me smile... and think.
    About what?

    The "ritual" crack and reference to the space being right for it to be right comes from a more general observation that in the thrall of introverted functions we tend to require the world to bend to our expectations whereas paying attention to an extroverted function we tend to be rather more aware of what is and how we should accommodate it. This is certainly true of judgment functions (probably), and I suppose it'll be true of the perception functions too, judgment or no.

    The thought then is that approaching the physical world in terms of introverted sensing one may tend to determine the nature of what one is perceiving by checking it against past perceptions, and if say the physical sensation or situation is new, what's the implication?


    WHAT!! What are you trying to do?! That's uncomfortable and unusual!! It's... it's... MY GOD, I SEE NOW, IT'S AGAINST NATURE!!!! FREAK!!!!!!
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    <Fi>I guess that in true Fi fashion I was responding more to my thoughts and impressions about you rather than the logical integrity of your argument. What inspired my spontaneous Fi eruption was my bemused observation of your Ni hard at work. Very thoughtful... slightly cryptic... and able to see things from all sides... I smiled as I read your post before engaging in all manner of idle thoughts re: what it'd be like to get to know you in real life.

    I love interacting with other N doms. There is something uniquely powerful and enthralling about the conversational ebb and flow that Intuitive Doms share (which, for the uninitiated, are INTJs, ENTPs, ENFPs, and INFJs). Plus, there's your rather striking avatar picture... Gary Cooper from the Fountainhead, no? Very tantalizing.</Fi>

    <Te>As far as responding specifically to what you wrote. I get the general idea that you were noting that xNFPs are always curious about the implications of their sexual encounters. Then, you alluded to your awareness and your partner's awareness of your role as the initiator/performer in such encounters with xNFPs. Sort of like you'd rather you and your partner mutually explore each other rather than the xNFP waiting expectantly and watching you. I think this is at the heart of the J/P interaction... and oftentimes the male/female dynamic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalach View Post
    The only thing I had in mind (approximately every seven seconds of each day) is that an NFP reaction to physical exploration is, first, to be curious about the implication. They'll be watching me doing my explorations. Which is fine (no, it's not), but exploration as performance is less wonderful than physical exploration to physically explore (together)....

    ...Dr Kalach, at your service. Making love to implications since 1917....
    I'm guessing that you have a few notches in your INFP/ENFP belt. The 1917 part, though, made me smile. Very creative.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalach View Post
    ...And I notice no ENFPs talking about the need for ritual and how the physical space needs to be right for it to be right. Hmmmm, how implicative!
    ^^^
    And then, in size-1 typeface you make a logical segue into how repetition and ambiance are also important in how sex feels to the participants. True. But I'm not sure how this relates to the rest of your argument. Would you care to elaborate?</Te>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Esoteric Wench View Post
    I'm guessing that you have a few notches in your INFP/ENFP belt.
    14-year-old virgin. Don't hate my purity.

    And then, in size-1 typeface you make a logical segue into how repetition and ambiance are also important in how sex feels to the participants. True. But I'm not sure how this relates to the rest of your argument. Would you care to elaborate?</Te>
    Unconscious requirements. The thesis is, inferior Si, among other origins, is where the enjoyment of repetition and stylising ambiance comes from. I believe inferior Se tends one in a different (wishful) direction, away from repetition and into sometimes absurd novelty.

    Just a tangent in an otherwise charming discussion of gettin' it on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tortoise View Post
    I've never had a one night stand or a fling, and that's despite having the impulsive flirtyness of the ENFP and the usual desires of a red-blooded male. I want my sexual relationships to be emotionally meaningful, which means that while other people are merrily hooking up when they feel like it, I just couldn't do that.

    Anyone else feel the same way?

    It's the same with every other aspect of my life -- if it's not emotionally meaningful to me in some way, then I'm not interested.

    Maybe that's normal for most people, not just an ENFP thing???
    +1
    I think it might be F thing.

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    this thread would be sifted much more effectively if we had access to enneagram type.

    w8 tends to turn emotions into physical impulses and is generally more lusty, assertive, action-oriented by nature. sx/so types generally spin the ol' odometer the most, while so/sp types generally consider what they think is socially endorsable before impulsively acting and being consumed by what they might want or could want (tho they seem to be less impulsively spiky in general).

    i've seen a lot of 7w6 girls, probably many so/sx, running from something/someone into the arms of someone else in a kind of perpetual motion machine. it's different than w8 which is way more cocky and self-assured. 7w6 so/sx is more often acting in response to its own vulnerability, anxiety, and need for alliance and social security. 7w8 feels more like a hate fuck. everyone for him/herself, consumed by appetite, competitive and challenging, etc. 7w6 at its worst is like opoided out, at its best its fully present both head and body and seriously seriously fun-loving yet still sincere.

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    Okay, I like sex. Wait, I LOVE sex. But it's just against me to play around. I don't like casual sex. I want a beautiful b**** boy then I can play around with forever and ever and ever...

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    I am, essentially, a theoretical whore. As in, a whore, but only in theory.

    In other words, I'll flirt with anyone, girl or guy (though I'm only sexually attracted to guys), just because I can, and for no purpose other than being obnoxious and amusing myself to no end, heehee.

    But if anyone actually took it seriously and were like YES LET'S GO I'd be like loool no. I'm not having sex with you until I've known you for longer than a year and I'm sure we could have a long-term relationship (ideally, lifelong).

    I know me, and I know that if I went for casual sex or a summer fling I'd end up unhappy and disappointed. I dislike investing emotionally in things or people that I don't see being a part of my future.

    Besides, if it were for my libido, I'd have done every gay guy (or even non-gay ones? >> women too, maybe? >>) in this city. Self-control is an art, and I plan to master it. Or at least, become really good at it. Or, well, at least irl; I don't have to excercise it as much online, obviously. :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by the state i am in View Post
    this thread would be sifted much more effectively if we had access to enneagram type.

    w8 tends to turn emotions into physical impulses and is generally more lusty, assertive, action-oriented by nature. sx/so types generally spin the ol' odometer the most, while so/sp types generally consider what they think is socially endorsable before impulsively acting and being consumed by what they might want or could want (tho they seem to be less impulsively spiky in general).

    i've seen a lot of 7w6 girls, probably many so/sx, running from something/someone into the arms of someone else in a kind of perpetual motion machine. it's different than w8 which is way more cocky and self-assured. 7w6 so/sx is more often acting in response to its own vulnerability, anxiety, and need for alliance and social security. 7w8 feels more like a hate fuck. everyone for him/herself, consumed by appetite, competitive and challenging, etc. 7w6 at its worst is like opoided out, at its best its fully present both head and body and seriously seriously fun-loving yet still sincere.
    Every time I read one of your posts, I say to myself, "Damn it. You have GOT to read up more on the Enneagram." the state i am in, do you have a single book or Website you'd recommend as a good overview?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil Flamingo View Post
    I am, essentially, a theoretical whore. As in, a whore, but only in theory.

    In other words, I'll flirt with anyone, girl or guy (though I'm only sexually attracted to guys), just because I can, and for no purpose other than being obnoxious and amusing myself to no end, heehee.

    But if anyone actually took it seriously and were like YES LET'S GO I'd be like loool no. I'm not having sex with you until I've known you for longer than a year and I'm sure we could have a long-term relationship (ideally, lifelong).

    I know me, and I know that if I went for casual sex or a summer fling I'd end up unhappy and disappointed. I dislike investing emotionally in things or people that I don't see being a part of my future.

    Besides, if it were for my libido, I'd have done every gay guy (or even non-gay ones? >> women too, maybe? >>) in this city. Self-control is an art, and I plan to master it. Or at least, become really good at it. Or, well, at least irl; I don't have to exercise it as much online, obviously. :3
    Devil Flamingo, I'm exactly the same way. And, I love your term "Theoretical Whore" because that so aptly describes me.
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