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    Quote Originally Posted by Domino View Post
    hahhaa, good luck with that, Moiety.
    You can say that again. It's probably the one person in the whole world which I feel completely incapable of making any progress with. There is just no chance of having a normal conversation for long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moiety View Post
    You can say that again. It's probably the one person in the whole world which I feel completely incapable of making any progress with. There is just no chance of having a normal conversation for long.
    That sounds troublesome. And rather exhausting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moiety View Post
    You can say that again. It's probably the one person in the whole world which I feel completely incapable of making any progress with. There is just no chance of having a normal conversation for long.
    I'd have thought the ENFJ's "super Fe" would have allowed for some decent normal conversations...guess not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domino View Post
    That sounds troublesome. And rather exhausting.
    Yeah. And I think it shaped a lot of my personality. On one hand she is one of the most giving individuals I know and always wants to help other people. At home she can be overbearing and you can imagine how that would being even worse with an FP. And the same time I know she means well and I'd just like to make her see I care (even though we just...disagree completely on so many things).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moiety View Post
    Yeah. And I think it shaped a lot of my personality. On one hand she is one of the most giving individuals I know and always wants to help other people. At home she can be overbearing and you can imagine how that would being even worse with an FP. And the same time I know she means well and I'd just like to make her see I care (even though we just...disagree completely on so many things).
    Fe/Fi conflicts are often some of the most...er...passionate.
    Fe is even more overbearing than Te. (At least outside of the workplace..)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo View Post
    I'd have thought the ENFJ's "super Fe" would have allowed for some decent normal conversations...guess not.
    Her Fe is different towards me as her son. Always making sure I didn't forget anything and that I'm not screwing my own life up. But she isn't much for the "opening up" kind of conversation or for sure relaxing and cracking a few jokes.

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    Mondo - (first post from you - I'm slow on the draw) Not if you're dealing with highly defensive Fe/Ni. That can pretty much shut everything down or funnel it into a joke.

    Moiety - how this person *is* at home seems to be the more important factor as *you* have to live with it, not the outside world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domino View Post
    Not if you're dealing with highly defensive Fe/Ni. That can pretty much shut everything down or funnel it into a joke.
    Oh yeah, she is very defensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moiety View Post
    Her Fe is different towards me as her son. Always making sure I didn't forget anything and that I'm not screwing my own life up. But she isn't much for the "opening up" kind of conversation or for sure relaxing and cracking a few jokes.
    Probably the motherly instinct then. Oh well..maybe you could get her to open up but I'm guessing you've tried that many times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moiety View Post
    Oh yeah, she is very defensive.
    Then a factor of trust is missing (not blaming anyone here, just saying). Either she has a history of having something to defend or perhaps she needs a primer in how to interpret and respond to your "opening up" questions? What is it exactly that you wish to deeply connect on?

    Sometimes my ENFP sister will shell me with questions (out of concern) and I'll automatically back up and ball up. Sometimes she'll say "XYZ needs to get done" and I respond "not this second/minute" for whatever reason (time constraints, late hour, present occupation, etc), and she'll say (mistified) "I didn't mean right NOW". I can't tell you how many of those little exchanges we've had and I've known her for 33 years. lol Sometimes she pushes me to open up, and I have a visceral repulsion to it - not because it's her, because I trust her with my life and would talk to her about most anything, but because I'm not ready.

    It's difficult to get us to talk when we absolutely do NOT want to talk. The only other intuitive type I've met who's THAT evasive are INFJs. NFPS, even the introverted ones, might be amazed by just how on the surface they can live while much NFJs CANNOT. I'm submerged 98% of the time. I can't survive on the surface, not without a lot of help.
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