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    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    I'm going to cut against the grain and say, YES, even something like picking up socks is affected by Fi. Just not directly. It's not like I have a "pick up socks" value. That would just be silly.

    Instead, I integrated the action of picking up socks into a larger, more important value. I figured out a way to make picking up socks meaningful to me, because it's a part of a more important whole. If I don't assign meaning to behavior and action, I won't be able to do them for very long.
    I was actually expecting this answer. It seemed to me that perhaps Fi would integrate a larger meaning behind this action. I'm glad I wasn't completely wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    I was actually expecting this answer. It seemed to me that perhaps Fi would integrate a larger meaning behind this action. I'm glad I wasn't completely wrong.
    I think INFPs are why? people. We need to know why we must do something, and then appreciate the why, before we will actually do it.

    So small, everyday, menial things like socks and dishes often get by-passed because the why just isn't all that important.

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    'Why' people are the best kind of people .

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    yes agreed....the why is totally the only thing that matters anyway.
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    Sometimes it's the how.

    Oh! And thank you everyone for your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    I'm going to cut against the grain and say, YES, even something like picking up socks is affected by Fi. Just not directly. It's not like I have a "pick up socks" value. That would just be silly.

    Instead, I integrated the action of picking up socks into a larger, more important value. I figured out a way to make picking up socks meaningful to me, because it's a part of a more important whole. If I don't assign meaning to behavior and action, I won't be able to do them for very long.
    True. I could be picking up the socks only because I figure no one wants to see them lying around the living room like that; which is a value based action. And believe me, I would leave them there altogether if there wasn't a good reason to pick them up

    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    I think INFPs are why? people. We need to know why we must do something, and then appreciate the why, before we will actually do it.

    So small, everyday, menial things like socks and dishes often get by-passed because the why just isn't all that important.
    Excellent point.

    This is very true for me. As a child I was the annoying kid that followed my parents/the teacher etc around the room asking, "but why...?" . And its one of the reasons I'm so lazy. If people can't give me a compelling reason to do things that don't immediately take my interest, it doesn't get done. I need an strong emotional motivator like shame or guilt to drive me to take action on many things.

    It's strange because after you've mentioned that I realize how I always need to foresee what might take place before I take action. My ISTP Dad always complains about how whenever he tells me to do things (like, "hold this for a moment" when he's fixing something around the house) I always ask why. I can't just shut up and do what he says without know what is going to happen. Its so ridiculous!
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    Kinda reminds me of this image that someone posted on FB

    4w5, Fi>Ne>Ti>Si>Ni>Fe>Te>Se, sp > so > sx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Kross View Post
    True. I could be picking up the socks only because I figure no one wants to see them lying around the living room like that; which is a value based action. And believe me, I would leave them there altogether if there wasn't a good reason to pick them up


    Excellent point.

    This is very true for me. As a child I was the annoying kid that followed my parents/the teacher etc around the room asking, "but why...?" . And its one of the reasons I'm so lazy. If people can't give me a compelling reason to do things that don't immediately take my interest, it doesn't get done. I need an strong emotional motivator like shame or guilt to drive me to take action on many things.

    It's strange because after you've mentioned that I realize how I always need to foresee what might take place before I take action. My ISTP Dad always complains about how whenever he tells me to do things (like, "hold this for a moment" when he's fixing something around the house) I always ask why. I can't just shut up and do what he says without know what is going to happen. Its so ridiculous!
    HAHAHA. So true. :yim_rolling_on_the_

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    Me: why
    X that by 100.
    Eventually he noticed and he explained it to me before me even asking.
    What a good boss. He is so patient with me.

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    INFJs are why people as well. We might do something, but we'll prioritize it according to how well we understand the need for it. A smart leader will talk to us about the why first and also address the concerns we may see (might even save them some trouble with others down the road). My old school required ridiculous amounts of unnecessary paperwork and frequently changed deadlines and policies on it. I finally quit doing it until I was absolutely sure it was needful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seymour View Post
    As requested, a thread. We'll see if it does better than the "someone start a thread" thread.

    Some common INFP issues include:

    1. Hypersensitivity - We often interpret negative feedback as a personal attack. In fact, we sometimes project negativity onto factual, neutral statements. This problem extends to critiques of our values, since as Fi-doms we see our values as fundamental parts of ourselves. Our hypersensitivity can cause us to avoid seeking feedback or evaluation out of fear of it being negative.
    2. Tendency to procrastinate - Like other perceiving types, we have a tendency to procrastinate. In our case, an avoidance of conflict tends to be a contributing factor. Our Fi-based idealism combined with our Ne-inspired ability to see possibilities sometimes makes moving from the possible to the actual demotivating: the reality is always less than we'd like it to be. This can even extend to career paralysis, in which we fear moving forward because no option is perfectly inline with our inner selves and values. Also, attempting something Important™ and failing can trigger our hypersensitivity (see above). We can also tend to wait for internal transformation to provide motivation, even when external action is all that's needed to start the ball rolling.
    3. Social Disregard and/or Cluelessness - Our lack of Fe and reliance on Fi tends to make us seemingly unaware of societal expectations. Even when we are aware of them, we may see such expectations as an attack on our individual expression and autonomy. Our Fi focus may also cause us to appear quirky or dress inappropriately for a given situation. Also, we may experience unnecessary conflict with Fe-users because we are unaware of the message we are sending by opting out of important rituals and traditions. We tend to be bad at initiating contact with others, which may send a message that we are selfishly disinterested in other people.
    4. Idealism/Absolutism - While at its best our Fi can lead us towards having worthwhile values and not compromising them, at our worst we tend towards an intolerant, blinkered impracticality. We can tend to dismiss information that doesn't fit with our preconceived ideals and becomes angry when people point out how distorted our internal model of the world may be. This can extend to relationships, causing us to over-idealize those we love, leading to communication problems and/or disappointment.


    And, to include stringstheory's procrastination example:


    I'm sure people have other perspectives to add.
    I;ve gotten over the first and last still working on the middle two

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