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    There are many I have great respect and admiration for. I have noticed a general trend in my relations with some of them (of course, as always, it depends on the individual, but this is just something I've noticed); I am usually intimidated by/ill at ease with INTP women and ENTP (ESTPs, too) men. I don't really know why, and this is my issue, not theirs, but I still think it's relevant, as, I think, it has something to do with communication. With the few confirmed INTJs I've known personally, (1 woman 2 men) there seemed to be this "mutual understanding" that went on. I felt more comfortable sharing some very personal problems with one of the men, than with my NF friend. I never feel like they are judging me, and there is this sense of saintly patience and calmness that surrounds every interaction I have had with them. I really appreciate their insight and vision into things, as well as when I would ask for help with something, this INTJ man would help me to come up with some REAL applicable answers, and all without even a hint of judgment or any feeling of having been personally criticized/talked down to. I always knew that he was critiquing my ideas, and not me. (I realize that with xNTPs, it is usually the same thing. What I mean is that, I never FEEL personally criticized when an xNTJ says it, but do when an xNTP does something similar. Again, this is totally my problem, as it's not the xNTPs' responsibility to ascertain and adhere to my style of interaction/communication. I just think that the communication style/dynamic of mine and xNTJs' is more compatible/complementary, naturally. This is something I definitely need to work on.) Even with some xNTJs that I have had only brief contact with, I felt this same thing to a lesser degree. I realize this sounds very one-way, and this is not the only thing I appreciate about them. Just on a personal level, this has been my experience.

    Of every type, theoretically/hypothetically at least, I think that I am most compatible with an xNTJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torai View Post
    NTP's are really awesome when they develop Extroverted Feeling. That's all I have to say.
    How much developing is needed for awesome, may I ask?

    The Fe in a lot of INTPs is lucky to get a little bit of sunlight. Actually being aware of it, I think, would be a lot of development.

    I'm not as terrible at extroverted feeling as I may seem. My social cluelessness goes beyond type. I am very nice to people, as far as I'm aware, but if someone was hurt by something I said, I wouldn't be able to tell unless they practically slapped me and said "I'm angry, goshdarnit!" The key to being able to stand such cluelessness is to go and tell us in literal terms how you are feeling. Blame incompetence before meanness.

    Other than that, I don't see a reason for NFs to not stand all NTs. There are some that have issues that go beyond type, but others that are cool, and others that are balanced enough that type doesn't present issues at all. And I think I am getting along with NFs pretty well so far...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torai View Post
    NTP's are really awesome when they develop Extroverted Feeling. That's all I have to say.
    Your fingers slipped alot, you're forgiven.

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    Impossible....


    In regards to the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    Your fingers slipped alot, you're forgiven.

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    They have this nasty tendency to attack the person, instead of the idea, when they don't agree with something..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily flower View Post
    I have read a lot about how NF's are supposed to match romantically with NT's. This makes no sense to me. My husband is an ESFJ or an ENFJ and he is wonderful. Every NT I have know has been arrogant and cold, lost in politics and their own projects, not open to other points of view at all. Why in the world do the books match up NF's and NT's?
    That does not describe NT's as a whole. If you allow yourself to become jaded by nilly willy past experiences, then you limit your future possibilities. There are jackasses in every type.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arclight View Post
    They have this nasty tendency to attack the person, instead of the idea, when they don't agree with something..
    yeah. that'd be my complaint too. that's NTPs though, mainly ENTPs. i've never really felt attacked by an NTJ. they just are cold and ignore people.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    Your fingers slipped alot, you're forgiven.


    i generally really like NTs. probably connect with them better on average than any of the other non-NF types. no problems from this NF.

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    I really don't mind NTs. Most i know are very socially aware but at the same they will vent to how incompetent some people are.

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    I don't need a lot of Extroverted Feeling. The more they have, the more I prefer them, though. Just enough to not attack me and my ideas every chance they get. This does not describe all NTP's. I am aware of that, but a few of them are prone to that.

    On the bright side, NTPs are incredibly funny.

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