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  • Yes, I'm constantly getting rid of the clutter, and keeping it under control.

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  • No, the clutter piles up, and I sort through it when I get inspired.

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    Yeah I tend to have a cycle going whereby I accumulate clutter over weeks, suddenly realize that the clutter is there and is not an unalterable feature of my existence, clean and organize everything savagely, keep on top of it for a few weeks and then lose interest. I've discovered that the only way to minimize the cycle is to minimize all my possessions. A few moves in rapid succession helped with this. The first move got rid of obvious junk. The second move got rid of subtle junk. The third move got rid of non-junk that I didn't use that much. The fourth move got rid of all non-book non-essentials. The breakthrough came for me when I identified as junk all possessions which I used to define who I want to be as opposed to who I actually am.

    My clutter tends to be of a strictly utilitarian variety. I've never put any effort into creatively personalizing my living space, except for a few months when I was 10 and decided that posters were something a young man should have all over his walls. The phase passed, but the shame lives on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelric View Post
    I'm a serial clutterer. I have literally years worth of holiday/birthday cards stacked up on top of my entertainment center, at least partly because I'd feel guilty throwing them away (eventually I'll get around to it, but clearly not a high priority). I've gone years without actually folding clothes - I've always been relatively fastidious about personal cleanliness, but the "clean clothes pile" and the "dirty clothes pile" were sufficient. Mom would be happy to know I've broken that little habit . Stacks of books in random places are not unusual, and I've got a couple piles of old 80's-era clothes that I haven't gotten around to donating to somewhere worthwhile (and I'm not kidding myself that I won't get some silly attachment to some of them, even knowing I'll never wear them again).

    At least part of it is, I think, that I live alone and have more room than stuff. There's simply not a whole lot of incentive to go and keep things tidy - if either I lived in a small space (a dorm room) or lived with someone who it bothered, it wouldn't be a terribly huge deal for me to get things picked up.
    I can relate to this, too. I think being an N is more of a cause of this than anything else. The clutter really bothers my S husband, but unless I force myself to look at it, I don't really "notice" it. I just work around it or step over it.

    Quote Originally Posted by JivinJeffJones View Post
    Yeah I tend to have a cycle going whereby I accumulate clutter over weeks, suddenly realize that the clutter is there and is not an unalterable feature of my existence, clean and organize everything savagely, keep on top of it for a few weeks and then lose interest. I've discovered that the only way to minimize the cycle is to minimize all my possessions. A few moves in rapid succession helped with this. The first move got rid of obvious junk. The second move got rid of subtle junk. The third move got rid of non-junk that I didn't use that much. The fourth move got rid of all non-book non-essentials. The breakthrough came for me when I identified as junk all possessions which I used to define who I want to be as opposed to who I actually am.

    My clutter tends to be of a strictly utilitarian variety. I've never put any effort into creatively personalizing my living space, except for a few months when I was 10 and decided that posters were something a young man should have all over his walls. The phase passed, but the shame lives on.
    That's profound.

    Downsizing is the best way to keep my stuff organized, too.
    When I didn't own very much stuff, everything had a place, and I knew exactly what I owned and where it was located.

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    Oh, I'm terrible at keeping my room tidy ^^ And I hate it when my mum tries to throw away my things. When I was little I used to cry when my mum threw away anything - even clothes that were too small.
    However, I can't abide mess where I'm working on something special that I've put lots of work into, and I like large spaces to be messy in as I get claustrophobic easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    I can relate to this, too. I think being an N is more of a cause of this than anything else. The clutter really bothers my S husband, but unless I force myself to look at it, I don't really "notice" it. I just work around it or step over it.
    I think that's a lot of it. I simply don't notice such things either - when I was a kid, I'd get in trouble from my S-Mom because I'd walk right by the (full) trash can without stopping and taking it outside. She'd insist that there was no way that I could walk by it and not notice that it was in need of emptying, and that I was simply being lazy when I hadn't taken it out - and then didn't believe me when I tried to explain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelric View Post
    I think that's a lot of it. I simply don't notice such things either - when I was a kid, I'd get in trouble from my S-Mom because I'd walk right by the (full) trash can without stopping and taking it outside. She'd insist that there was no way that I could walk by it and not notice that it was in need of emptying, and that I was simply being lazy when I hadn't taken it out - and then didn't believe me when I tried to explain.
    Been there. Got the trophy.

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    Default This is where I get a little obsessive...

    I wish there was a middle ground to choose -- I'm SO much better than what I use to be. I HAVE to have a home for everything that I own. I have 2 large 4-drawer lateral files and a large 2-drawer lateral file FULL of files over my life, and everything that I need can be found there (every once in a while, I have to purge, but pretty much everything goes into neatly filed bankers boxes upstairs... just in case!)

    I have a system to organizing my mail... I open everything up, and I immediately remove my address from envelopes and correspondence that I am not keeping and put it in a pile and the pulled addresses then go into my double-shredder (I'm very scared of identity theft). The pile of recycled paper immediately goes into a decorative wooden box with a lid that looks pretty next to my desk -- when it's full, it goes into the recycle bin that gets picked up once a week. I recycle and reuse everything that I can, and I believe that I am sort of obsessive compulsive. Before I had this system down, I had piles of paper everywhere... and I was paralyzed because I couldn't throw paper, plastics and aluminum out. My sister, otoh, will throw everything she doesn't need away. It drives me crazy.

    Oh, I love clear, plastic, organizing bins. I have a full bin just for anything sewing related. I have a bin for everything related for shoe repair, polishing, waterproofing. I have a huge bin for all hair items (when I find good sales for shampoos, conditioners, rollers, curlers, etc), soaps, toilet paper, etc. You get the picture... I have to have these systems in place so I can find my items. If I don't, my house eats them up (or so it seems!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy View Post
    I wish there was a middle ground to choose -- I'm SO much better than what I use to be. I HAVE to have a home for everything that I own. I have 2 large 4-drawer lateral files and a large 2-drawer lateral file FULL of files over my life, and everything that I need can be found there (every once in a while, I have to purge, but pretty much everything goes into neatly filed bankers boxes upstairs... just in case!)

    I have a system to organizing my mail... I open everything up, and I immediately remove my address from envelopes and correspondence that I am not keeping and put it in a pile and the pulled addresses then go into my double-shredder (I'm very scared of identity theft). The pile of recycled paper immediately goes into a decorative wooden box with a lid that looks pretty next to my desk -- when it's full, it goes into the recycle bin that gets picked up once a week. I recycle and reuse everything that I can, and I believe that I am sort of obsessive compulsive. Before I had this system down, I had piles of paper everywhere... and I was paralyzed because I couldn't throw paper, plastics and aluminum out. My sister, otoh, will throw everything she doesn't need away. It drives me crazy.

    Oh, I love clear, plastic, organizing bins. I have a full bin just for anything sewing related. I have a bin for everything related for shoe repair, polishing, waterproofing. I have a huge bin for all hair items (when I find good sales for shampoos, conditioners, rollers, curlers, etc), soaps, toilet paper, etc. You get the picture... I have to have these systems in place so I can find my items. If I don't, my house eats them up (or so it seems!)
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    I can let clutter gather for months as long as there is a cleared pathway, but if I'm really depressed even that can be optional. There are only two important things I need to conern myself with: laundry and kitty box.

    I usually let it go before getting into a cleaning frenzy... a very mild frenzy I might add. I prefer it when I keep it halfway decent by cleaning regularly and I sometimes do this for periods of time. But something causes the clutter to start emerging and then its all down hill.

    I try to keep books and important papers off of the floor. My kitties puke on the floor on a too regular basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelric View Post
    I think that's a lot of it. I simply don't notice such things either - when I was a kid, I'd get in trouble from my S-Mom because I'd walk right by the (full) trash can without stopping and taking it outside. She'd insist that there was no way that I could walk by it and not notice that it was in need of emptying, and that I was simply being lazy when I hadn't taken it out - and then didn't believe me when I tried to explain.
    Ugh, bad memories

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy View Post
    Oh, I love clear, plastic, organizing bins. I have a full bin just for anything sewing related. I have a bin for everything related for shoe repair, polishing, waterproofing. I have a huge bin for all hair items (when I find good sales for shampoos, conditioners, rollers, curlers, etc), soaps, toilet paper, etc. You get the picture... I have to have these systems in place so I can find my items. If I don't, my house eats them up (or so it seems!)
    I've started doing that, with my bathroom stuff for example. It's still kinda messy, but it's *contained mess* at least :rolli: Now I need to extend it to the whole house, and then (and only then) I can start looking for more "civilised" ways of putting stuff away. I mean, how can you plan any kind of organisation if you don't even know how much stuff you have in each category ?

    (Hmm, re-reading that last sentence has me thinking "Te all over!", which makes me think that once I get my stuff in boxes, chances are I'll never bother going into those "more civilised ways of putting stuff away"... Just like I'm pretty happy with my boxed-in bathroom stuff right now... Could it be that I'm finally getting to grips with my nature ?)

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    If only you could see my basement. Its so beautiful It just has shit lying around EVERYWHERE and I love it.

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