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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalach View Post
    You know when people say "it's great because of our shared N"?

    No one shares their N.

    And this thread is annoying for literally that reason. YOU ARE ALL leaping and bounding all over the place, being the N gods. You're not sharing N. You're doing N at each other. And in different directions too. And in effect you're all demanding that everyone else be the S. As in, "Here is my insight, now go build it into something concrete." And the price of that sort of approach is feeling, either when the other side doesn't see what you know, or when the other side doesn't get to communicate what they know.

    I hereby pledge to not flesh out this idea nor explain why it fits here.
    Truth.

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    and!! kalach...you say that as if it's a bad thing! it's like a million alternate realities...there is no truth only perception.
    There can’t be any large-scale revolution until there’s a personal revolution, on an individual level. It’s got to happen inside first.
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    one of our perceptions has got to be true - we covered all grounds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalach View Post
    Presumably.

    But it's considerably more easily achieved if one leads with introverted sensing.

    Because that's what leapt out when I skimmed through recent posts in this thread: that everyone, including the ENFP herself, seems to be telling the INTJ to find the core of this relationship in detailed assessment and reverence for truths of the past. To have the stones to know what was and is "real".

    Because, presumably, the NF probably already does know and needs you to join in to not just know it as real but also to make it as real now.
    ^ A 'real' man. <3
    OP: Listen and learn from the wisdom of a fellow INTJ .

    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    You sound like your playing mindgame sh-- with yourself. Your playing emotional games with her. You have a goal, welcome to being J. You will continue to play mindgames with yourself until.

    A. you let go of your goal
    B. you reach your goal
    ^ A straight shooter. <3
    OP: Allow the sexy ISTP's/ESTP's to show you how its done. Less talk, more action. Remember that.

    Quote Originally Posted by fecaleagle View Post
    Um hello?? Your IQ is obviously too low if you didn't realize that you had to look at her username and realize that she is a perfect girl with no flaws in actions, perceptions, thoughts, emotions, etc. That is her counterargument. Jeez! Chuck Norris worships the ground perfectgirl walks on

    I think perfectgirl and my ex would get along quite well. They have quite the knack for understanding situations perfectly and not making any errors in judgment

    As for the latest posts, I really do not understand. Staking our relationship on expecting me to disrespect her wishes and go "ravage" her? WTF kind of mind game is that? This is our RELATIONSHIP we are talking about here, not some f-ing game! My ex needs to grow the hell up emotionally!
    ^ i don't like my username.

    P.S., mhmm, ravaging would be good. No talking though, mkay...

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    I am now like 80% sure she blew all of this out of proportion and it was all just a game and excuse to be with other guys for a while. The Ni is piecing it all together. I hope I'm wrong
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    I hope so! I hope I'm wrong. Time will tell.
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    Congrats on blaming others for you own emotionality. Paranoia is such a wonderful thing when fueled by negative feelings, isnt it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fecaleagle View Post
    I am now like 80% sure she blew all of this out of proportion and it was all just a game and excuse to be with other guys for a while. The Ni is piecing it all together. I hope I'm wrong
    It's possible. And working through that possibility in your head is probably one of the more unpleasant parts of not being in trustworthy communication.

    But...

    if you were to remember that, at least by your typing, she's N too, then you could get some insight into how she did see unexpectedly way more in a few words than she perhaps should have. And similarly that you may be doing the same with a small number of her actions.

    It's not automatic that you're wrong. It is possible however that there's a different, perhaps unfamiliar perspective which will show you more of what's happening. It'll probably be technically just as bad, but maybe not as intrinsically terrible as the slutty ESFP image you can see.

    Difficult times.
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    A little housekeeping is in order:

    Quote Originally Posted by perfectgirl View Post
    ^ A 'real' man. <3
    OP: Listen and learn from the wisdom of a fellow INTJ .
    The fellow INTJ wasn't being at all S about that "presumably". I do agree that the NF probably does know what is "real"... to her. And for a fellow N also looking for what's real, that does not mean the other N's answer is the answer. Rather it means that in discovering ones own answer, one now has to go through the process a few extra times, not just from experience to perception to decision, but from experience, to perception, and then ricocheting off in another direction toward another's unfamiliar perception, and then into some really odd perception loops that I don't know how to describe, and possibly eventually one day back to decision.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    and!! kalach...you say that as if it's a bad thing! it's like a million alternate realities...there is no truth only perception.
    Hmmm... but you say that as if it were a true thing.





    And now back to the regularly scheduled T-baiting.
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