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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalach View Post
    If she's really ENFP, then you, the INTJ, are probably not supposed to be so far-sighted. You're not supposed to make projections about what any future relationship looks like now that you've seen how unreliable she can be. You are, instead, supposed to go back over all manner of past events. You're supposed to rely on past feeling to bolster present feeling. You're supposed to want it back. You're supposed to worry considerably about the future if it cannot be as it was in the past. And you're supposed to show all of that to her in a way that makes it all look like a rock she can trust to always lean on, assuming she is inclined to lean. And then she will tell *you* about the future.
    ^ Agreed, but wouldn't that require him having some stones too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by perfectgirl View Post


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    Quote Originally Posted by perfectgirl View Post
    ^ Agreed, but wouldn't that require having some stones too?
    Presumably.

    But it's considerably more easily achieved if one leads with introverted sensing.

    Because that's what leapt out when I skimmed through recent posts in this thread: that everyone, including the ENFP herself, seems to be telling the INTJ to find the core of this relationship in detailed assessment and reverence for truths of the past. To have the stones to know what was and is "real".

    Because, presumably, the NF probably already does know and needs you to join in to not just know it as real but also to make it as real now.



    Disclaimer: this is just some functional observation from we here at the Ni Propaganda Desk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stringstheory View Post
    By all means, feel free to counter my position.
    Um hello?? Your IQ is obviously too low if you didn't realize that you had to look at her username and realize that she is a perfect girl with no flaws in actions, perceptions, thoughts, emotions, etc. That is her counterargument. Jeez! Chuck Norris worships the ground perfectgirl walks on

    I think perfectgirl and my ex would get along quite well. They have quite the knack for understanding situations perfectly and not making any errors in judgment

    As for the latest posts, I really do not understand. Staking our relationship on expecting me to disrespect her wishes and go "ravage" her? WTF kind of mind game is that? This is our RELATIONSHIP we are talking about here, not some fucking game! My ex needs to grow the hell up emotionally! It's sad when I'm the one that tells someone that they need to do that Honestly, she has the potential to be an awesome girl, but in the end I'm more of a catch than her...so please, check that mindgame shit at the door and realize who you could be with. /rant
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    Quote Originally Posted by fecaleagle View Post
    As for the latest posts, I really do not understand. Staking our relationship on expecting me to disrespect her wishes and go "ravage" her? WTF kind of mind game is that? This is our RELATIONSHIP we are talking about here, not some fucking game! My ex needs to grow the hell up emotionally! It's sad when I'm the one that tells someone that they need to do that Honestly, she has the potential to be an awesome girl, but in the end I'm more of a catch than her...so please, check that mindgame shit at the door and realize who you could be with. /rant
    1) You sound angry.

    2) It really never hurts to go make a woman feel wanted/desired. It's really not THAT much of a mindgame...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalemate View Post
    OMG we turned you into a feeler!



    That made me laugh stalemate! Welcome to the dark side, fecaleagle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fecaleagle View Post
    I seriously do think I have really gotten much more in touch with my Fi, although I have a long, long way ago as I get older. I mean, recently it has been developing more and more, but I really feel like this expedited the process. That's kinda how it works for us INTJs. We learn quick, and under pressure situations. The sad part is the inability of my ex to see me willing and working hard to pursue that growth, with the purpose of making both of us happy After my heartfelt letter (in which I abandoned all pride and made my self completely vulnerable for the first time in my entire life), she has the nerve to pick out a few poorly worded and innocent sentences and completely misconstrue and misinterpret them, to my horror. HELLO? Did you even read the letter as whole or did you analyze each sentence independently? That's what I get for being genuine, sincere, and apologetic. Everything I meant was from the heart and put the blame on me. Jeez lol, ENFPs can be the most. stubborn. type. of. all. Not to mention bringing up things that I said about possible future plans months ago, and the fact that I was unsure of them. Sorry I didn't give her a full update on the issue (umm could've simply asked) that I thought was dead because she never brought it up. Hello, the problem was resolved a long time ago in my head, and it should of been obvious if she had observed what I was now planning on in life and did ounce of logical thinking, or took 2 seconds to ask. Instead she makes the ridiculously asinine assumption that I knew my entire life plan far in advance, and completely made up this possibly shitty scenario and enjoyed watching her cry for the uncertainty of the future. That I took pleasure in it. She literally said all of that. That it shattered her emotional core. WTF? It didn't shatter your core, your ridiculous thinking process did. Honestly this girl seems to be on the verge of clinical psychosis, and this is coming from someone very knowledgeable in neuroscience. From personalitypage.com "ENFPs sometimes make serious errors in judgment. They have an amazing ability to intuitively perceive the truth about a person or situation, but when they apply judgment to their perception, they may jump to the wrong conclusions". Yep. That alone has ended an otherwise perfect relationship. I'm aware that my insensitivity when I said these recent hurtful things, but I apologized, took full responsibility, asked her to help me grow in these emotional areas, explained where I was coming from logically and emotionally, and said I was willing to try anything to avoid future pitfalls. Maybe one day it will click to her that what I have said and done has been truthful and well-intentioned, we just deal with things differently and she never communicated that to me. Then she will come crawling back to me begging for me back, dissatisfied with all the guys she has try to connect with. Sorry, but you're not gonna find someone that accepts you for who you are more than I did. Just had to vent the amount of injustice I have had to deal with. Sorry
    At the risk of sounding like your ex (picking out a few poorly worded phrases out of a giant wall of text) the part in red sounds like you have regressed back to the Poo Poo Bird that we first met and that you still don't really think you did anything wrong. You act like her jumping to the wrong conclusion is the only problem ("alone") and that you did nothing wrong ("otherwise perfect relationship"). I am giving you the benefit of the doubt because I haven't read the rest of the thread since the quoted post, but that one sentence really puts a bad mark on any of your "growth" as seen earlier in this thread. Please don't use this as another example of an ENFP jumping to a wrong conclusion. I am just being open with you about how your words come across.

    I am sorry that things didn't work out for you guys, but I hope you are learning/growing. You guys both screwed up, and you probably can't attribute as much of the faults to your MBTI type as you would like to believe. Just my 2 cents.

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    You know when people say "it's great because of our shared N"?

    No one shares their N.

    And this thread is annoying for literally that reason. YOU ARE ALL leaping and bounding all over the place, being the N gods. You're not sharing N. You're doing N at each other. And in different directions too. And in effect you're all demanding that everyone else be the S. As in, "Here is my insight, now go build it into something concrete." And the price of that sort of approach is feeling, either when the other side doesn't see what you know, or when the other side doesn't get to communicate what they know.

    I hereby pledge to not flesh out this idea nor explain why it fits here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalach View Post
    You know when people say "it's great because of our shared N"?

    No one shares their N.

    And this thread is annoying for literally that reason. YOU ARE ALL leaping and bounding all over the place, being the N gods. You're not sharing N. You're doing N at each other. And in different directions too. And in effect you're all demanding that everyone else be the S. As in, "Here is my insight, now go build it into something concrete." And the price of that sort of approach is feeling, either when the other side doesn't see what you know, or when the other side doesn't get to communicate what they know.

    I hereby pledge to not flesh out this idea nor explain why it fits here.
    Kalach, while it pisses me off to no end to say this, I must admit that you do make an excellent point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fecaleagle View Post
    Um hello?? Your IQ is obviously too low if you didn't realize that you had to look at her username and realize that she is a perfect girl with no flaws in actions, perceptions, thoughts, emotions, etc. That is her counterargument. Jeez! Chuck Norris worships the ground perfectgirl walks on

    I think perfectgirl and my ex would get along quite well. They have quite the knack for understanding situations perfectly and not making any errors in judgment

    As for the latest posts, I really do not understand. Staking our relationship on expecting me to disrespect her wishes and go "ravage" her? WTF kind of mind game is that? This is our RELATIONSHIP we are talking about here, not some fucking game! My ex needs to grow the hell up emotionally! It's sad when I'm the one that tells someone that they need to do that Honestly, she has the potential to be an awesome girl, but in the end I'm more of a catch than her...so please, check that mindgame shit at the door and realize who you could be with. /rant
    You sound like your playing mindgame shit with yourself. Your playing emotional games with her. You have a goal, welcome to being J. You will continue to play mindgames with yourself until.

    A. you let go of your goal
    B. you reach your goal
    Im out, its been fun

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