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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    well damn...and you called her a fair weather friend...or fan...didn't you? or did i make that up...anyway...if you can turn it off like that. what does that tell you?

    not saying it's wrong...just honest...honesty is good. if you can turn it off what does that mean to you?
    It tells me that you can't have a one-sided relationship. Maybe others can, but I can't stay in love with someone who is not in love with me. Or not in enough love to be in a relationship. I mean sure, I could wait, let the resentment build up from her indecision, stay in the relationship..and then watch it end. Wouldn't it be best to end it before this can happen? I want to be a fully loving relationship with no bad feelings about the other person. I'm just scared that I'll start having negative feelings for her because I don't feel important enough to her

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    hmm...well to be totally honest. i can't relate to her need for space right now. i can't imagine needing more than a couple days. i take my time deciding lots of things...i'm a 100% p! haha but in romantic relationships...i can't dwell in a negative unresolved place for too long and i know exactly how i feel. the only reason i said what i did was because i don't think truly deep love disappears so easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by perfectgirl View Post
    ^ Gag me. Based on your last couple of replies, If I were you I'd let it go and work on *you*. You sound like an emotional girl. This has clearly defeated you. I don't think you have what it takes to cultivate love with anyone at this point. You have to first identity the root of the problem before you can fix it. Take Esoteric Wenches recommendation and reach for that oxygen mask... now breathe, relax, release. I deleted my replies to this thread, which would have helped you the most right now. I deleted my posts is because I don't like to waste my words, if people don't care to listen. Your disrespectful reply to me indicates you don't care. Now I know how your girlfriend feels. I spent quality time trying to understand you (probably the same way your GF did) and then you shot me down. Not cool. I sincerely wanted to help you.



    ^ I'm with you on all of that.
    Holy shit. Get the fuck over yourself! Everyone in this thread has been telling me to give her space and not to force anything, and you come in and tell me to do the opposite. I disagree with your opinion and you go ape shit? Calling me emotional? What I've said in the last few posts were from a strictly intellectual perspective. My first few posts were the ones that were emotional. So I "disrespect" you by saying that it seems like you are suggesting that I play a game, and you go and delete your holy and divine posts because now you deem me unworthy of your omniscience. Clearly everyone in the this thread including me has been wrong, I am so glad you could come in and grace us with your presence. The way I "treated you" has nothing to do with my girlfriend. You are not her. I couldn't give a flying fuck about you, and would appreciate if you stayed the fuck out of my thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    hmm...well to be totally honest. i can't relate to her need for space right now. i can't imagine needing more than a couple days. i take my time deciding lots of things...i'm a 100% p! haha but in romantic relationships...i can't dwell in a negative unresolved place for too long and i know exactly how i feel. the only reason i said what i did was because i don't think truly deep love disappears so easily.
    I didn't mean that my love would just disappear like that. I meant that at some point, I have to realize that it's best to walk away no matter how hard it is, and start the slow process of making the love go away. I care about her very, very deeply, and I thought that I had made that apparent throughout this thread. Again, please realize that my posts are coming from a logical place, and have little reflection of my emotions, other than every now and then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fecaleagle View Post
    Holy shit. Get the fuck over yourself! Everyone in this thread has been telling me to give her space and not to force anything, and you come in and tell me to do the opposite. I disagree with your opinion and you go ape shit? Calling me emotional? What I've said in the last few posts were from a strictly intellectual perspective. My first few posts were the ones that were emotional. So I "disrespect" you by saying that it seems like you are suggesting that I play a game, and you go and delete your holy and divine posts because now you deem me unworthy of your omniscience. Clearly everyone in the this thread including me has been wrong, I am so glad you could come in and grace us with your presence. The way I "treated you" has nothing to do with my girlfriend. You are not her. I couldn't give a flying fuck about you, and would appreciate if you stayed the fuck out of my thread.



    I didn't mean that my love would just disappear like that. I meant that at some point, I have to realize that it's best to walk away no matter how hard it is, and start the slow process of making the love go away. I care about her very, very deeply, and I thought that I had made that apparent throughout this thread. Again, please realize that my posts are coming from a logical place, and have little reflection of my emotions, other than every now and then.
    yeah sure i get it....i so need things like this resolved quickly. i wouldn't be cool with waiting for as long as you have either....you need to move forward...together or apart and you just need to know.

    has there been any indication whatsoever that she has been unhappy before this happened? i just know myself...and i wouldn't leave someone i was crazy in love with hanging like this...i would know how i feel and want to resolve it quickly.
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    I see where Fecaleagle is coming from (not the convo with perfect-girl, what he said about love and waiting). I couldn't wait and I am F-based and enjoys my emotions more than INTJs. Imagine an INTJ waiting like that - must be complete torture. Also, I believe INTJs pride themselves in self-control and independence. It's really like a fish out of water for him. I don't think he love her less if he walks away. I think there's just a limit to his love, which is different from an NF love. I see where he is coming from.

    I am also surprised that she is still contemplating after receiving a love letter from you and all those logical and emotional explanations. That's...taking it way too far. I am afraid to say that perhaps something else is up...

    Also ... XNFP need strong men? I like strong men, but not in a needy, let me cry on your shoulder, solve all my problems way. I am a strong woman and I solve my own problems, thanks. I freak out a lot and is emotionally wavy so if I am with someone who is just as *wavy*, it'd be a big mess. I don't need a pillar to *lean* on, but I want it next to me. Does that make sense? I am really tired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    i know what you're saying and agree to a point but i think a partnership becomes stronger when you can trust each other to catch you when you fall...if they can be strong during your moments of weaknesses and vice versa...like in dance...she can leap up into your arms and know you'll catch her...same thing with feeling safe to be vulnerable...opening yourself up...knowing they'll be there...that's what true intimacy is all about...we're all fallible...and knowing your partner loves and supports you through the weaker times is really important.
    A partnership isn't about just leaping in one direction and expecting your partner to catch you every time though. It's a partnership because both people have strength to offer and to justify the enterprise of life. If any duo of heroes depended on the other for one particular thing every time...they would fail if the other one couldn't be there every time. This is dependency and is a concept so easy to grasp that I don't know how someone could be ok with it. Where is personal growth in the midst of all of this?


    Quote Originally Posted by Rebe View Post
    Also ... XNFP need strong men? I like strong men, but not in a needy, let me cry on your shoulder, solve all my problems way. I am a strong woman and I solve my own problems, thanks. I freak out a lot and is emotionally wavy so if I am with someone who is just as *wavy*, it'd be a big mess. I don't need a pillar to *lean* on, but I want it next to me. Does that make sense? I am really tired.
    Yeah it makes sense. You need a strong man. That's basically what you said.
    Well I don't know what a strong man is. And dunno why NFP women can't be strong themselves.


    And this was basically what I was hinting at before. If it can't be equal, if you can't accept someone being as "wavy" as you...you already lost the game.

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    Emotional reasoning VS. Intellectual reasoning! I watch with morbid fascination.





    Rebe, I'm curious about the distinction you're making on NF vs NT love (your post sort of implies that NT's have limits to their love, unlike NF's). Would you mind explaining some more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by perfectgirl View Post
    ^ Seriously folks, do I have to spell everything out? Let's try to take things at face value here and not overanalyze life, love and the pursuit of happiness. This thread is making me feel like I have a really high I.Q. and it's starting to give me a complex. I'm trying to see if a mod can restore the posts I deleted. I'm truly authentic, right about how I feel, and best of all I'm real. That makes me very proud and happy!

    ...for those still going in circles in this thread, take note of what I just said.

    ...to the latest poster, nobody said anything about needy, emotional dependancy or anybody catching up. I know the exact posts you're referring to and you've gone way off course. Don't make me have to explain this all over again! GRRRR....
    You obviously don't know the exact posts I'm referring to. And I'm going where I want to go.

    Take a chill pill.

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    She sent me an immature message saying things about how she is upset that I removed her as a facebook friend and blocked her calls, for a day (the night when I said the mean stuff). And that those were "actions" not "words". lol. I guess technically so, but it's a moot point. Tonight I told her that I cannot wait any longer, that she has to decide. She said she needed more time, so I ended it. Oh well, it obviously wasn't meant to be Moving on will suck, but the sooner I get started the better. Hopefully I'll find someone who truly appreciates my strengths and weaknesses not too long from now. Thanks for all of the immense help everyone! I did learn a whole bunch about feelings and emotions, which should hopefully make my next relationship perfect. I guess tomorrow I'll burn our pictures, cards, etc, and delete all digital images I have of us and her There's no room for nostalgia now

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    sorry to hear that. good luck with moving on, be sensitive to the fact that she will probably need a lot more time than you to move on. Take what you learned and invest this knowledge and energy into your next relationship if this is indeed the path you will take. again, good luck.
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