User Tag List

First 3456715 Last

Results 41 to 50 of 223

  1. #41
    Once Was Synarch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Posts
    8,470

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    A lesson I have learnt by obtaining and creating a strong T.
    There is this aphorism in Nietzsche's "Ecce Homo" that I often think about:

    "When thou goest to woman, take thy whip."

    On the surface it sounds misogynistic, but as with many of his aphorisms there are multiple interpretations that spur thought. The reason I think about it a lot is that I think each possible interpretation illuminates an essential fact of male / female relations.

    Out of all the possible reasons to "take thy whip" I have come up with the following interpretations:

    1. The whip as a tool of domination over women.
    2. The whip as a tool for keeping women at bay, much like a lion tamer keeps lions at bay.
    3. The whip as a means to punish yourself in front of women or because of women.
    4. The whip as a tool a woman uses to dominate men, ie. take your whip so that she can whip you.
    5. The whip as a tool for spurring action.

    In any case, I think there is something thought provoking about it. And I consider it often. There is a force at work that keeps us at odds with one another. And that same force attracts us irrevocably to one another.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

  2. #42
    mod love baby... Lady_X's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    MBTI
    ENFP
    Enneagram
    9w1 sx/so
    Posts
    18,086

    Default

    you know what i've realized. i've just almost never been single. that's why i didn't think too much about being friends with guys in the past or why i am apparently too nice if a guy hits on me. i've just never been available so none if it mattered...huh...weird.

    not really relevant i guess...just thinking out loud sorry.
    There can’t be any large-scale revolution until there’s a personal revolution, on an individual level. It’s got to happen inside first.
    -Jim Morrison

  3. #43
    ReflecTcelfeR
    Guest

    Default

    I can see these all as good representations. The third seems to ring out most. As this appears as the most painful.

  4. #44
    Once Was Synarch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Posts
    8,470

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    So if a guy has about 4 female friends he considers good friends, then has feelings for all of them? These friendships continue even when said guy has a girlfriend?



    IDK....I am not naive so that I don't recognize that a man making efforts to see & communicate with a woman apart from some social group is usually because he has romantic/sexual interests, but I do think that friendships can form beyond casual, friendly acquaintance in a group.
    Men are friends with women for a whole range of reasons that have nothing to do with sincere appreciation. Just as women are friends with men for a whole range of reasons that have nothing to do with sincere appreciation.

    Just off the top of my head:

    1. Being friends with women frees one from hierarchical considerations at work in friendships with men.
    2. Being friends with women is gratifying to the ego.
    3. Positive attention from women is always pleasurable.
    4. Being friends with women is a powerful form of social proof. In De Waal's "Primate Politics", he describes the phenomenon that to be successful as a prospective alpha male among chimpanzees, one must first enlist the support of the females of the group.
    5. Women who support you will talk well about you to other women.
    6. If other men know women like you, they may try to curry your favor.
    7. Friendships with women can provide emotional supports you may not be experiencing in your own relationship.

    There are probably several other reasons I am not thinking of.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

  5. #45
    Once Was Synarch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Posts
    8,470

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    you know what i've realized. i've just almost never been single. that's why i didn't think too much about being friends with guys in the past or why i am apparently too nice if a guy hits on me. i've just never been available so none if it mattered...huh...weird.
    You mean you wouldn't want male friends if you were in a relationship?
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

  6. #46
    ReflecTcelfeR
    Guest

    Default

    I think it's more oblivious-ness.

  7. #47
    Once Was Synarch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Posts
    8,470

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    I can see these all as good representations. The third seems to ring out most. As this appears as the most painful.
    Makes me think you might be young.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

  8. #48
    mod love baby... Lady_X's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    MBTI
    ENFP
    Enneagram
    9w1 sx/so
    Posts
    18,086

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    You mean you wouldn't want male friends if you were in a relationship?
    i mean that since i was always in one i didn't always assume that guys who were friendly with me wanted more.
    There can’t be any large-scale revolution until there’s a personal revolution, on an individual level. It’s got to happen inside first.
    -Jim Morrison

  9. #49
    ^He pronks, too! Magic Poriferan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    MBTI
    Yin
    Enneagram
    One sx/sp
    Posts
    13,909

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    1. Being friends with women frees one from hierarchical considerations at work in friendships with men.
    2. Being friends with women is gratifying to the ego.
    3. Positive attention from women is always pleasurable.
    4. Being friends with women is a powerful form of social proof. In De Waal's "Primate Politics", he describes the phenomenon that to be successful as a prospective alpha male among chimpanzees, one must first enlist the support of the females of the group.
    5. Women who support you will talk well about you to other women.
    6. If other men know women like you, they may try to curry your favor.
    7. Friendships with women can provide emotional supports you may not be experiencing in your own relationship.
    Most of these sounds true even if you take women out of them and leave them sexually ambiguous.
    Go to sleep, iguana.


    _________________________________
    INTP. Type 1>6>5. sx/sp.
    Live and let live will just amount to might makes right

  10. #50
    Once Was Synarch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Posts
    8,470

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    i mean that since i was always in one i didn't always assume that guys who were friendly with me wanted more.
    Ah, but now it seems that they always want more?
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

Similar Threads

  1. [SJ] SJ Females How Do you Like to Be Approached?
    By obzen210 in forum The SJ Guardhouse (ESFJ, ISFJ, ESTJ, ISTJ)
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 06-07-2017, 06:58 PM
  2. [NF] Do you need to be inspired to do things?
    By Virtual ghost in forum The NF Idyllic (ENFP, INFP, ENFJ, INFJ)
    Replies: 40
    Last Post: 07-01-2009, 05:50 PM
  3. [MBTItm] Do NFJs tend to be the most private types?
    By Glycerine in forum The NF Idyllic (ENFP, INFP, ENFJ, INFJ)
    Replies: 34
    Last Post: 04-10-2009, 09:19 PM
  4. Replies: 15
    Last Post: 10-27-2007, 10:02 PM
  5. What type do you aspire to be?
    By RansomedbyFire in forum The Bonfire
    Replies: 72
    Last Post: 09-28-2007, 09:54 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO