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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    lol sorry...I misunderstood...

    Yeah, Synarch...relating to people comes naturally to me, I mean, I am capable of just exchanging information, but mostly I converse to relate. I don't understand how people can not relate.
    What is the point of relating? What benefit do you receive from it?
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    It's the 'I've gotta be friends with everyone complex' that I find somewhat profound and unrealistic(though I was this way for quite some time). Seeing as relationships tend to be like spider webs and most are tangled within one another. This would be the only way true equality could be attained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    of course i did what? huh?
    Nothing.

    My fingers slipped... a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    It's the 'I've gotta be friends with everyone complex' that I find somewhat profound and unrealistic(though I was this way for quite some time). Seeing as relationships tend to be like spider webs and most are tangled within one another. This would be the only way true equality could be attained.
    I think if you feel connected to everyone and everything as many Feeling types do, then this feeling of equality emerges rather spontaneously. If you see yourself as disconnected and separate, it becomes easier to create hierarchies and segregations among groups of people and between individuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    What is the point of relating? What benefit do you receive from it?
    It's a large part of what gives life meaning for me. I'm so high on F preference I may not be the best person to translate this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    It's the 'I've gotta be friends with everyone complex' that I find somewhat profound and unrealistic(though I was this way for quite some time). Seeing as relationships tend to be like spider webs and most are tangled within one another. This would be the only way true equality could be attained.
    well both yours and synarchs comments are way overstating it. i just mean the interaction style is relational...personal...so if we genuinely feel like reaching out or connecting with someone we do it that way.

    blah...i have totally forgotten the point. totally going to bed!! ahh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    What is the point of relating? What benefit do you receive from it?
    I suppose, if you were to think about it in our (NT) standards, if this trust could be created a well of information would be open for us to look upon, respectfully of course. You don't prod without allowing yourself to be prodded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    It's a large part of what gives life meaning for me. I'm so high on F preference I may not be the best person to translate this.
    I am just curious why it seems central to you. Or, perhaps it is not a consciously understood thing?

    Do you feel disconnected if you do not relate? Does this disconnection cause you discomfort?
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    I actually think I need some relating for romantic vibes to happen also.... I've dated a few INTJs and it put me off that they didn't seem to comprehend me much at all, didn't seem all that interested in relating, and yet expressed romantic feelings when I felt some huge gap between us. I felt like, "He only likes me because he's physically attracted to me". That just wasn't enough for me.

    On the other hand, I can relate to people & feel zero romantic vibes. It's just something I expect/want in general, I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    Do you feel disconnected if you do not relate? Does this disconnection cause you discomfort?
    I'm going to butt in & answer also . YES & YES, and I have felt alienated much of my life because I don't relate much to most people, yet I need & want to. On the other hand, I can take a perverse pleasure in the outsider role. INFPs like a tinge of tragedy in their life

    (Is this some enneagram 4 thing? Probably!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    I actually think I need some relating for romantic vibes to happen also.... I've dated a few INTJs and it put me off that they didn't seem to comprehend me much at all, didn't seem all that interested in relating, and yet expressed romantic feelings when I felt some huge gap between us. I felt like, "He only likes me because he's physically attracted to me". That just wasn't enough for me.

    On the other hand, I can relate to people & feel zero romantic vibes. It's just something I expect in general, I guess.
    Interesting. So you have to relate to have access to any emotional intimacy? And by relating you mean that you have to feel that something is being shared between the two of you?
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