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    Default How do you cope with housework and daily life details?

    Man, I struggle with this big time. Any hints on how not to let everything take over and stress you out all the time. I seem so shit at remembering things and fitting it all in is a huge chore. Yet I don't like to live in a mess ... any older wiser NF's out there who know how we can SJ those wee parts of our life so we can get on with the other, so much more INTERESTING stuff!!?

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    Fun first, fit in details around it, buy underwear if you run out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kate7 View Post
    Man, I struggle with this big time. Any hints on how not to let everything take over and stress you out all the time. I seem so shit at remembering things and fitting it all in is a huge chore. Yet I don't like to live in a mess ... any older wiser NF's out there who know how we can SJ those wee parts of our life so we can get on with the other, so much more INTERESTING stuff!!?
    I'm not an NF, but as far as cleaning the house goes... this is what I do (I work in a lab though so you probably won't need the same frequency).. every morning I clean the bathroom after I shower etc, briefly - it takes about 5 minutes... Then twice a week I really clean it - takes about 20 or 30 minutes.

    I always clean the kitchen after each use - takes about 5 or 10 minutes... if I'm cooking I tend to clean while I'm cooking...

    I have hardwood floors and no carpeting so I dust and mop every weekend - takes about 2 or 3 hours depending on the time of year, but I typically combine this with brainstorming for work, watching TV, or listening to music.

    So basically in short if you don't let it pile up it's really a lot easier to clean things...

    For other stuff... buy a giant dry erase board and put it up on your wall, write down the things you need to get done in some really annoying color and happily erase them as they are completed. We did this system for our INTP friend and it works great for him.

    good luck.

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    Hehehehe, yeah, I hate all of this stuff too. At this point, after being married to a neat-freak busy body for many years it had pretty much become habit. Now, though I just pick up throughout the day, whenever I want to. I do something small, then I do something I want to do, then I do something small again. I break it up into little manageable tasks. When I do have to do the big things, I have a playlist that inspires me to clean. With bills and things, I usually just make sure I leave them out where I will see them... Otherwise they will get put into a random pile, so I keep them where I can see them and I order them by date.

    So my advice is to do the boring stuff in-between the fun stuff. That's what I do. Or you can marry a neat-freak that doesn't like to clean for themselves. The choice is yours.
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    Lists ,lists and more lists.
    I write lists just to remind me to write more lists.

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    Well I clean up after myself as to prevent any mess. I am single, so I only do things like clean the bathroom, vacuum the floor, etc only once a week.

    When things get too messy I tend to get really intimidated and have to do everything in small parts to complete a large cleaning project.

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    For me, what helps is to make set cleaning and laundry days during the week. Usually it's Thursday for cleaning, and Monday and Friday for laundry. I listen to music while doing the cleaning, or just letting my brain travel off in some other place other than the cleaning. Gives me an opportunity to think of what I'm going to create.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousFeeling View Post
    For me, what helps is to make set cleaning and laundry days during the week. Usually it's Thursday for cleaning, and Monday and Friday for laundry. I listen to music while doing the cleaning, or just letting my brain travel off in some other place other than the cleaning. Gives me an opportunity to think of what I'm going to create.
    This helps me a lot.

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    I have a large family and I'm really pretty horrible about keeping up with stuff. So far the only thing that has really helped is podcast novels. If I'm listing to a good story while I'm doing stuff, it hardly feels like work.

    Podiobooks FTW! Librivox is pretty good, too. Both are free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kate7 View Post
    Man, I struggle with this big time. Any hints on how not to let everything take over and stress you out all the time. I seem so shit at remembering things and fitting it all in is a huge chore.
    ANSWER 1:
    The answer to your question is to integrate form and function.

    Minimize your household composition.

    Get rid of "stuff" that does not have a regular (used 1x per year or more) purpose.

    If there is less stuff strewn everywhere, then there is less to clean, less to become unwieldy, and more time to focus on life itself...

    ANSWER 2:
    You must also integrate your HOUSEHOLD CLEANING into your DAILY ROUTINE.

    If you start with a clean house, and then let it go to shit, it will likely take you several hours (or the proverbial "weekend") to get it back in order.

    BUT - if you start with a clean house (2 days work, wall to wall, and floor to ceiling, just accept that as an initiation fee)...

    ...AND then commit to performing common household tasks as it becomes necessary to do them (and not just when the whole place has gone to hell in a handbasket) then your home will never stray too far from its ideal state.

    ASSUMPTION:
    Saturday: Clean entire pig sty

    HALLA'S EASY-PEEZY MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE:
    (1) Sunday: Do the dishes/tidy up the kitchen
    (2) Monday: Do one or two loads of laundry
    (3) Tuesday: Spray mildew remover in the shower, pour bleach in the toilet bowl
    (4) Wednesday: Sweep and vaccuum!
    (5) Thursday: Take the garbage and recycling out
    (6) Friday: De-clutter, and then have a glass of wine as you enjoy your posh pimp crib.
    (7) Saturday: You are free to do as you choose, and your house is clean, go forth and frolic, and prosper...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kate7 View Post
    Yet I don't like to live in a mess ... any older wiser NF's out there who know how we can SJ those wee parts of our life so we can get on with the other, so much more INTERESTING stuff!!?
    See above. I'm married to an NF, and understand how you all revel in idealizing about the world in all its various potential wonderful conformations, and have seen how such meander-dreaming can cause a disconnect with the pigsty of reality. BUT - I have also seen and enjoyed many conformations of the world as you intended it to be for me, and enjoyed it very, very much, so if I can offer a little practical counsel to keep the miracles flowing my way, I'm able to be selfless enough to make that happen...

    Be organized to the point that it is a benefit to your life, not a burden. If your environment is pleasing to your eyes, and you can find all you need when you need it, then you have accomplished creating a HOME and not just A PLACE TO THROW YOUR STUFF.
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