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    Default Brutally honest ENFP?

    For quite some time now, I've found myself being much more outspoken than usual, and much more honest. Honest to the point where I'm just downright mean (even borderline cruel), sometimes.

    I try very hard not to be mean to my friends, but to people I don't know or care about? Ouch. If they upset me, they're in for a world of hurt.

    I think that I am starting to care less about the feelings of everyone around me.

    Is this normal for ENFPs?

    Is it possible my F trait is... Diminishing? Shifting to T?

    Or am I going through a weird funk?

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    I am brutally honest. Too much.

    This past year Ive been trying to work on it. Ive gotten better but sometimes when I first meet people they think I dont like them. I do I promise!

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    I have additional question, do you boss around with people?

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    It's highly probable that your tertiary Te is kicking your ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slowriot View Post
    I have additional question, do you boss around with people?
    I dont think so. I have been in plenty of leadership positions and I think I have taken them upon very well.

    You mean boss around like give orders like theres no tomorrow right?

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    It IS Te. ESFP's do it too, but with much more frequency it seems (maybe ESXX's are more extroverted in general than ENXX's.)

    I logged on to post about this actually. Can't find the topic but Lady Jaye (ENFP) basically told an ENFJ (presumably male) that she's learned that in life ENFJ men have problem because there Feelers who are men. I'm not sure if I got it 100 % right but that's like saying that Feeler men are a blight on society and they should just blow their brains out because they'll never fit in.

    Probably one of the rudest things I've seen on here. I'm sure some of it has to do with improper Fe-Te and Fi-Ti exchange across FP/TJ's and FJ/TP's but that doesn't make her statement any less fucked up. I'm not gonna give leniency to someone who has knows an ENFJ as well as she does and still comes out with something like that, especially given the fact that you have to think, think and rethink stuff that you type.

    Really makes me fume. That advice is no advice. I hate people that tell me I have a problem and have 0 advice on what to do about it.
    Last edited by wolfy; 06-07-2010 at 10:15 AM. Reason: edited out insult
    "... you think deeply about stuff [that] nobody cares about and hardly anybody can understand you." ~ Peguy talking about Ni users. So true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris1207 View Post
    (maybe ESXX's are more extroverted in general than ENXX's.)
    They are. Se is the most hyper-extroverted of all eight Jungian cognitive functions, followed by Fe. Ne's external interest focuses on brainstorming, and it has relatively little interest in socialization beyond that, making many ENxPs semi-introverted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slowriot View Post
    I have additional question, do you boss around with people?
    What do you mean? Boss people around? No, not that I know of atleast. I can take leadership roles, but I don't drill people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    It's highly probable that your tertiary Te is kicking your ass.
    Tertiary Te?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris1207 View Post
    It IS Te. ESFP's do it too, but with much more frequency it seems (maybe ESXX's are more extroverted in general than ENXX's.)

    I logged on to post about this actually. Can't find the topic but Lady Jaye (ENFP) basically told an ENFJ (presumably male) that she's learned that in life ENFJ men have problem because there Feelers who are men. I'm not sure if I got it 100 % right but that's like saying that Feeler men are a blight on society and they should just blow their brains out because they'll never fit in.

    Probably one of the rudest things I've seen on here. I'm sure some of it has to do with improper Fe-Te and Fi-Ti exchange across FP/TJ's and FJ/TP's but that doesn't make her statement any less fucked up. I'm not gonna give leniency to someone who has knows an ENFJ as well as she does and still comes out with something like that, especially given the fact that you have to think, think and rethink stuff that you type.

    Really makes me fume. That advice is no advice. I hate people that tell me I have a problem and have 0 advice on what to do about it. [edit]


    I have not been on this forum long but I havent seen anything like this from Lady. She seems wonderful.
    Last edited by wolfy; 06-07-2010 at 10:17 AM. Reason: edited quote

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