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    Default NFP's and Sarcasm--Why Don't They Get It?

    This is a point of aggitation with me...that my NFP brothers and sisters seem not to understand the concept of sarcasm.

    No offense. It's just whenever I instinctively go for a sarcastic barb to say "take me/this lightly", they completely have no understanding that sarcasm acts as an accent mark...or even a tilde (~).

    Despite the fact that I sound quite drunk at the moment, I'm not. This has been bothering me for awhile.

    So, a two pronger:

    1. If you don't get it, what is it about your personality that does not understand?

    2. If you do get it, but instead choose to ignore it, I gotta say, that makes me feel a little like you're looking your nose down at me. No offense. Por Que!? When I let myself be this way, I am really revealing a deeper part of myself, and I am trying to engage in communication on a much deeper level (in other words, trying to grow closer to ya).

    I am sarcastic both to get a point across, with a certain inclination, and to entertain my friends. It's my sense of humor. It's my universal translator (in every case, except NFPs). Some may argue that it's not the most mature form humor can take, but I beg to differ: "expensive" sarcasm, to me, is like a bar in a Motzart piece...it is human communication at multiple levels, that go so much deeper than the obvious spoken word. "Sarcasm", the word, almost cheapens it, but that's what it is. It isn't necessary negative, but rather, contrary. It makes light of a situation to us often, laden-with-burden NFJs.

    So clearly, I'm confused. Anybody wanna clarify?

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    I'm very sarcastic.

    Maybe your sarcasm sucks.

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    ^ woot marmy

    Actually sarcasm makes me laugh ... I love it personally.

    You should put up some examples so we can judge you on the sarcastic-ometer.
    "Remember always that you not only have the right to be an individual, you have an obligation to be one."
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    other things become ugly.
    When people see some things as good,
    other things become bad."
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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    I'm very sarcastic.

    Maybe your sarcasm sucks.
    Bite my ass Marm (but you are! That's why I like you, actually, you get it!).
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    I am thinking because it is F based sarcasm and not T based sarcasm?

    It's hard to deal with feeling based jokes and sarcasm. I hate sorting through what's really there and what's not.

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    "I am sarcastic both to get a point across, with a certain inclination, and to entertain my friends. It's my sense of humor. It's my universal translator (in every case, except NFPs)."

    I love sarcasm, I use it more than any other method of communication.

    My friend -> "sarcastic comment"
    Me -> blank look or a frown
    My friend -> "I was joking."
    Me -> "It wasn't very funny" or clever.

    Yeah, we may have a disdain for the un-clever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    ^ woot marmy

    Actually sarcasm makes me laugh ... I love it personally.

    You should put up some examples so we can judge you on the sarcastic-ometer.
    My ENFP friend Brenda does this all the freakin time.

    Like tomorrow, we're going to meet for coffee...


    Brenda: Hey, I'm going to bring my lunch to the coffee shop, so don't be embarassed.

    Me: Oh noes, Brenda! Whatever shall I tell the Duke and the Duchess of Worchestershirehousen?

    Brenda: So, I guess that means you're okay with me bringing my lunch, and you won't be embarassed? Good!

    Okay, so maybe my sarcasm does suck sometimes, but I know I'm funny occasionally. Wonka has the same reaction, until he gets comfortable, then he usually appreciates it a little bit. Maybe it's the SX/SOs. I've noticed that with Laurie (unkind) too, and she's an ENFJ SX/SO. *shrug* I dunno.
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    Hmmm yes, maybe heart has a point here ...
    "Remember always that you not only have the right to be an individual, you have an obligation to be one."
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    "When people see some things as beautiful,
    other things become ugly.
    When people see some things as good,
    other things become bad."
    Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

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    If i am well rested and all that, I probably do better with it, but it can be really exhausting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    If i am well rested and all that, I probably do better with it, but it can be really exhausting.
    I try to make it as obvious as possible for that reason...it's supposed to put everybody at ease, but it seems to have the opposite effect with NFPs. They have to think too roundly, and the work to get there makes the joke no fun.
    Love is the point.

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