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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Jung View Post

    I don't think there's a type that does this, I think it's just specific people.



    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Jung View Post
    ...I don't think sarcasm is that subtle of a thing, it's a low art form
    I disagree. It all depends on how it's used. Anyone can change the tone of their voice to indicate sarcasm.

    But using less common words, with dual meanings. Indicating seriousness with facial expressions, body language, and vocal intonation. Can make it quite subtle.

    It's amusing when someone has a stick up their ass. And you are being sarcastic in response, yet the sarcasm flies right over their head.

    Then they get all upset because you're smiling when they try to be serious, and they have no clue.

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    Non-NFP sarcasm is to NFP sarcasm as 50 cent is to Dr. Dre.
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    Eh, I've had problems with sarcasm unless I'm around a sarcastic person for a significant period of time. Then I start taking on their attributes, including snark.

    But until then, I like situational wit much much better. Stuff like finding everything ridiculous and making fun of ourselves. I dunno, sarcasm's often just too deadpan for me.

    HOWEVER! I have plenty of NFP friends who love sarcasm. I'm too gullible, maybe. Maybe that's my own thing

    I've noticed that sarcasm is like a mother tongue though, that everyone speaks. Mehhhbye I should make more of an effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biaxident View Post





    I disagree. It all depends on how it's used. Anyone can change the tone of their voice to indicate sarcasm.

    But using less common words, with dual meanings. Indicating seriousness with facial expressions, body language, and vocal intonation. Can make it quite subtle.

    It's amusing when someone has a stick up their ass. And you are being sarcastic in response, yet the sarcasm flies right over their head.

    Then they get all upset because you're smiling when they try to be serious, and they have no clue.
    Well yes when it flies over their head it is amusing, I should clarify. I just meant the: "Yeah, lighting your head on fire, sounds like a REAL good idea" sarcasm.

    When sarcasm flies over someone's head and they are oblivious to the social climate and the double entendres start flying around to heighten the dramatic irony, it's quite funny.


    Also OneWithSoul: Are you serious or are you just trying to anger people? I am surprised no one has complained yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Jung View Post
    I just meant the: "Yeah, lighting your head on fire, sounds like a REAL good idea" sarcasm.
    Yeah. That isn't very hard. On here, sarcasm can be very difficult to notice. So you have to use the most obvious form, generally.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzcrossed View Post
    I try to make it as obvious as possible for that reason...it's supposed to put everybody at ease, but it seems to have the opposite effect with NFPs. They have to think too roundly, and the work to get there makes the joke no fun.
    Quote Originally Posted by Biaxident View Post
    Yeah. That isn't very hard. On here, sarcasm can be very difficult to notice. So you have to use the most obvious form, generally.

    It can be fairly difficult to make sarcasm obvious, by nature. For T-type sarcasm, you say something that is obviously not true in a factual way, while for F-type sarcasm you say something that is obviously not true in a values/feeling way.

    If the other party is ignorant of the utter impossibility of your kind of sarcasm, it can be totally missed, and they'll take you seriously.

    If on the other hand, your sarcasm was really really really obvious and couldn't possibly true by either way of thinking ... it is far more likely that no one found your sarcasm amusing in the first place.
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    I totally get sarcasm, it's just that other people don't understand my sarcasm. They're stupid.
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    I'm not sure that i could make a blanket statement about who gets sarcasm and who does not.

    I do know that NFP types might perceive the sarcasm, but INFP's who I know IRL in particular seem more apt to respond to the comment in a serious/solemn way rather than just laughing at it. So it might seem like they do not get it. But it doesn't mean they do not. It usually just comes off as wanting to ensure no one's feelings get hurt, so they take the "safest" approach rather than the one that might seem dismissive.

    Then again, I get a bunch of SFJs who also take things seriously, even if they perceive I might be joking.

    And I know that the more subtle my sarcasm gets, the more that people who do not know me will start taking the comment seriously. I've had to be careful, since I like to make comments in the "ambiguous area" -- a blend of overlapping seriousness and humor -- and sometimes I have been burned in return from those who couldn't perceive the nuance.
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    I'm reminded of the "sarcastic nun" skit on SNL many many years ago.

    "What shall we do with our charity funds?"

    "Go to Las Vegas and gamble it all away!"

    (Nuns then go to Las Vegas to gamble away all of their charity funds.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by uumlau View Post

    If on the other hand, your sarcasm was really really really obvious and couldn't possibly true by either way of thinking ... it is far more likely that no one found your sarcasm amusing in the first place.
    Only because they have no sense of humor.

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