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    Default What does it mean to be an idealist?

    Since we are in the NF Idyllic, and well, NFs are called idealists...

    Do you see yourselves as idealists? What does it mean to be an idealist? How do you experience it?

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    you dream up ideal scenarios like...ideally...i wouldn't have to look at that loud dot as i type...haha kinda like that.
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    It literally means you dream of a better world. That you want people and yourself to experience good emotions, good things; to get along, and to see the world as one cohesive, harmonious unity. And working towards that goal fulfills you with satisfaction, much like being faced with constant disappointment can depress you to no end.
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    I do see myself as an idealist or rather...a realistic idealist / idealistic realist depending on my mood.

    There's this deep inner belief that no matter what, ultimately things will turn out to be good and positive. When I look at the world, I see all the things that have so much potential for improvement and I don't see that as something negative but rather positive that there is hope for the future. And I don't see that as something unrealistic or impractical either.

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    I want to see how other NFs experience this ...

    Amargith, I can relate to your answer, as that's why I get depressed. Nothing is like what I fantasize about in real life. Though I can't say that I necessarily see idealism as dreaming of a better world, in which you get along with everybody. It's holding on to an ideal, striving to reach it but it doesn't necessarily have to be a better world or it as a harmonious unity. Maybe you believe in chaos and evil etc.

    Or maybe it can just be a better world for you, not the notion of a better world in general.

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    With time, you come to realize why the world works the way it does, and you come to term with it, seeing the good in things that previously you could not comprehend. That allows you to zone in on the points that do need improving, and makes the idealism and realism gap smaller and gives you hope, instead of being trapped in an imaginary world with fear of stepping into the real world as it is such a big contrast with what you'd like to see. ultimately, the synthesis of the two is what you're striving to accomplish.

    Easier said than done though.
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    "Cynics regarded everybody as equally corrupt... Idealists regarded everybody as equally corrupt, except themselves."
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    hehe

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    He clearly wasn't an idealist at heart then
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    To the OP: Idealism is having that avatar and imagining that people will actually like it.

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    No, that's not idealistic, that's down right delusional
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