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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    You're cute when you know you've been bested.
    I must have missed that auspicious occasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    I must have missed that auspicious occasion.
    Considering everything else you miss, I'm not surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    It's a little late for that, don't you think?

    And as far as me getting more disciplinary action for what I say?
    Sim, I have been rewarded again and again IRL for what I am "punished" for online.
    I'm not going to change what earned me respect and success in business.
    Why is it a little late for that? I'm young. I have lots of time.

    So you're saying that being abrasive in real life is something I should strive for? That it's worked for you?

    This sounds to me like a clash between Fi and Fe value systems. You're declaring that changing my interpersonal behavior according to the conditions I'm in necessitates a lack of integrity, which sounds like an Fi-oriented indictment of Fe.

    Being different from you doesn't necessarily equate with lacking integrity.
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Why is it a little late for that? I'm young. I have lots of time.
    What I meant was, it's a little late since you publicly announced to everyone how you view people in this forum.
    You revealed your true intentions way back in the old Fi thread.
    The way you made it sound was like people here are lab rats to you, being used for an experiment.

    So you're saying that being abrasive in real life is something I should strive for? That it's worked for you?
    Did it ever occur to you that it's only perceived as "abrasive" online?
    Sim, the same day I got an infraction last year, I used the exact same comment at the grocery store.
    Everyone in line burst out laughing, but online I got an infraction.
    Don't you find that a little odd?

    So what could be the problem? Easy.
    Facial expressions, the eyes, voice, body language.
    It's all missing online.

    One of the nicknames given to me over the years was, "funster."
    Does that sound like I come across to people as "abrasive?"
    95% of the time I have a big smile on my face.

    What about people calling you "condescending" all the time?
    And how about that old profile pic you once had with the snarling look on your face?
    You sure didn't look like a "funster" to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    What I meant was, it's a little late since you publicly announced to everyone how you view people in this forum.
    You revealed your true intentions way back in the old Fi thread.
    The way you made it sound was like people here are lab rats to you, being used for an experiment.

    Did it ever occur to you that it's only perceived as "abrasive" online?
    Sim, the same day I got an infraction last year, I used the exact same comment at the grocery store.
    Everyone in line burst out laughing, but online I got an infraction.
    Don't you find that a little odd?

    So what could be the problem? Easy.
    Facial expressions, the eyes, voice, body language.
    It's all missing online.

    One of the nicknames given to me over the years was, "funster."
    Does that sound like I come across to people as "abrasive?"
    95% of the time I have a big smile on my face.

    What about people calling you "condescending" all the time?
    And how about that old profile pic you once had with the snarling look on your face?
    You sure didn't look like a "funster" to me.
    Good point. Did it occur to you that something similar be might true of me in real life?
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Good point. Did it occur to you that something similar be might true of me in real life?
    When someone chooses to post a snarling profile pic, that tells me something about how you wanted to be perceived.
    The fact that you changed it, doesn't mean the original image left my head.

    It seems to me that you say things online, you do not say offline.
    It appears you have some INFP pal who you can't be honest with.
    So rather than take care of it IRL, you come online and fuck with all the INFPs to somehow vent your repressed anger at your friend.

    It wouldn't be the first time someone did that in this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    So rather than take care of it IRL, you come online and fuck with all the INFPs to somehow vent your repressed anger at your friend.

    It wouldn't be the first time someone did that in this forum.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    When someone chooses to post a snarling profile pic, that tells me something about how you wanted to be perceived.
    The fact that you changed it, doesn't mean the original image left my head.
    I think I was just smirking in that picture. I think "snarling" is a little excessive, and besides--that photo was taken for a band photo shoot which was supposed to project a particular image. I used it here because I thought it looked good, not because I wanted to be perceived as snarling.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    It seems to me that you say things online, you do not say offline.
    It appears you have some INFP pal who you can't be honest with.
    So rather than take care of it IRL, you come online and fuck with all the INFPs to somehow vent your repressed anger at your friend.

    It wouldn't be the first time someone did that in this forum.
    You know, I bet that does have something to do with it, but I think a lot of the INFPs here are more annoying than my friend, by a wide margin.

    Anyway, yes, I do say some things here that I don't say offline. That's true of a lot of people--many come in complaining about spouses or employers or family members, voice their grievances and ask for advice on how to deal with it. That doesn't mean they all lack integrity. The point was that I don't usually come off as very abrasive offline.

    If you're suggesting that no one would interpret anything you say here as abrasive in real life, I beg to differ. If you really behave just the same way in real life that you do here, you've probably made a lot of enemies as well as friends.
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    sim, remember that old Fi thread, I stuck with you even though I felt you were insulting and condescending, on a personal level. And we managed through that thread to establish a rapport, and I now enjoy that.

    Why did I make that choice, to tough it out, to want to get to that place of communication with you? Because I think you're an intelligent and relentlessly inquisitive young man with potential that's sometimes masked behind that edgy and condescending-looking exterior. It causes people to both avoid you and dismiss you, and I see that as a waste.

    That's why I do still find it hard to understand why you choose to alienate some people who could become your friends.

    Does it matter to you now what I think of you, for example? Compared to our first interactions? Compared to your assumptions?
    "Remember always that you not only have the right to be an individual, you have an obligation to be one."
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    "When people see some things as beautiful,
    other things become ugly.
    When people see some things as good,
    other things become bad."
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    sim, remember that old Fi thread, I stuck with you even though I felt you were insulting and condescending, on a personal level. And we managed through that thread to establish a rapport, and I now enjoy that.

    Why did I make that choice, to tough it out, to want to get to that place of communication with you? Because I think you're an intelligent and relentlessly inquisitive young man with potential that's sometimes masked behind that edgy and condescending-looking exterior. It causes people to both avoid you and dismiss you, and I see that as a waste.

    That's why I do still find it hard to understand why you choose to alienate some people who could become your friends.
    I think you stuck it out because you knew I just like arguing and don't really hate people as much as it might seem like I do. You just listened to what I said instead of imagining your own meaning in it, and you knew it was often exaggerated and intentionally inflammatory, so you didn't take it that seriously.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    Does it matter to you now what I think of you, for example? Compared to our first interactions? Compared to your assumptions?
    A little more than it used to, sure. I'm not sure I understand the point here, though. Jaguar seems to be saying that he's exactly the same in real life as he is here, but that no one finds it abrasive at all. I find that hard to believe.

    He's also saying that I lack integrity because I'm willing to speak more openly here about certain things than I am to the real life people they involve. I don't think that says much about integrity; there are definitely times when it's not wise or appropriate to say everything that comes to mind.
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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