User Tag List

First 91011121321 Last

Results 101 to 110 of 273

  1. #101
    Dreaming the life onemoretime's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    MBTI
    3h50
    Socionics
    ILE
    Posts
    4,460

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by uumlau View Post
    You can stand up for yourself without being disrespectful. You can maintain your boundaries without punishing others for crossing them.
    You can only run away for so long, until you find yourself cornered. At that point, it's fight or perish.

    That very attitude will earn you disrespect from many people.
    From the sound of it, I don't much want nor need their respect.

  2. #102
    The High Priestess Amargith's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    MBTI
    Enfp
    Enneagram
    497 sx/so
    Socionics
    IEE Fi
    Posts
    14,660

    Default

    Wait...so why is it you get to disrespect others left and right to your own standards but they don't get to do it to you, even by accident?
    ★ڿڰۣ✿ℒoѵℯ✿ڿڰۣ★





    "Harm none, do as ye will”

  3. #103
    Dreaming the life onemoretime's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    MBTI
    3h50
    Socionics
    ILE
    Posts
    4,460

    Default

    I don't "get" to. I know I pay a penalty every time this happens. I know that it's "bad" behavior... but it doesn't make me a "bad" person.

    If I'm engaging in that sort of behavior, I know that one of the potential consequences is the dissolution of the relationship with that person. The difference is, by that point, I really don't care, either out of personal offense, or out of a sense of obligation.

    At the same time, I sometimes do it negligently. When that happens, I've gotta owe up to it, and recompense that person for the harm I've done, because otherwise the relationship's not balanced... and an unbalanced relationship eventually topples.

  4. #104
    The High Priestess Amargith's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    MBTI
    Enfp
    Enneagram
    497 sx/so
    Socionics
    IEE Fi
    Posts
    14,660

    Default

    K, tnx for explaining
    ★ڿڰۣ✿ℒoѵℯ✿ڿڰۣ★





    "Harm none, do as ye will”

  5. #105
    Freshman Member simulatedworld's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Enneagram
    7w6 sx/so
    Socionics
    ILE
    Posts
    5,554

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by neptunesnet View Post
    EDIT: Oh, and because sim [below me] is just waiting for me to give him a quick Fi shout-out hey. Also, one) I'm sure the e3s appreciate your calling them all histrionic, and two) I don't find you hypocritical at all for skipping over the good in my post because you didn't like the way I presented my ideas.
    I read the parts where you:

    A) Decided my friend is perfectly healthy/normal without ever having met him, and
    B) Told me I'm incapable of understanding or getting along with him,

    and that was enough for me. You're preaching better understanding of others and then outright declare that this is impossible for me? Really? Why should I bother trying then?

    At least Amargith is trying to facilitate better communication, rather than whining and declaring people lost causes. What are you trying to accomplish by doing that?
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

  6. #106
    Dreaming the life onemoretime's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    MBTI
    3h50
    Socionics
    ILE
    Posts
    4,460

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by neptunesnet View Post
    You keep saying that when we've already told you that he does care overall and he did care in the first or he wouldn't have adjusted in the first place.

    You see "caring" and "consideration" expressed very limitedly.
    How am I supposed to know that in the first place? Assume that he's a new roommate, and I don't know him well personally.

    We don't see it as a competition the way you do.

    He's not "saving face." He's not saving anything. He wants to make sure he doesn't disrespect you again, so he's "mindful next time."
    And the harm goes unaddressed and uncompensated.

    He already gave you a sincere apology.
    How am I supposed to know that he's contrite?

  7. #107
    The High Priestess Amargith's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    MBTI
    Enfp
    Enneagram
    497 sx/so
    Socionics
    IEE Fi
    Posts
    14,660

    Default

    you people (not meant in a bad way) are seriously obsessed with guilt. Guilt implies that his way of going about things is automatically wrong. It's not. It depends on the social contract between you two. If you haven't made one yet, then there is no wrong, there's just a reason to draw one up.
    ★ڿڰۣ✿ℒoѵℯ✿ڿڰۣ★





    "Harm none, do as ye will”

  8. #108
    Dreaming the life onemoretime's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    MBTI
    3h50
    Socionics
    ILE
    Posts
    4,460

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    you people (not meant in a bad way) are seriously obsessed with guilt. Guilt implies that his way of going about things is automatically wrong. It's not. It depends on the social contract between you two. If you haven't made one yet, then there is no wrong, there's just a reason to draw one up.
    I take out a gun and blow his head off. Oops. But, I shouldn't go to prison, because we didn't have a social contract between us that says "thou shalt not shoot the other person in the head".

    It's unworkable.

  9. #109
    The High Priestess Amargith's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    MBTI
    Enfp
    Enneagram
    497 sx/so
    Socionics
    IEE Fi
    Posts
    14,660

    Default

    I'm talking about the finer details. Main ones are needed in society, I agree. But murdering someone and making noise when you come in at night...kinda a big difference, dude. The world aint so black and white as you make it out to be.
    ★ڿڰۣ✿ℒoѵℯ✿ڿڰۣ★





    "Harm none, do as ye will”

  10. #110
    Dreaming the life onemoretime's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    MBTI
    3h50
    Socionics
    ILE
    Posts
    4,460

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    I'm talking about the finer details. Main ones are needed in society, I agree. But murdering someone and making noise when you come in at night...kinda a big difference, dude. The world aint so black and white as you make it out to be.
    Which is why I'm not demanding he be locked up for the rest of his life.

Similar Threads

  1. [JCF] XNFPs and Knowing the "Essence" of People
    By finalcount in forum The NF Idyllic (ENFP, INFP, ENFJ, INFJ)
    Replies: 42
    Last Post: 07-30-2012, 10:36 AM
  2. [MBTItm] XNFPs and the Discussion of Events/Feelings
    By SubtleFighter in forum The NF Idyllic (ENFP, INFP, ENFJ, INFJ)
    Replies: 26
    Last Post: 06-23-2011, 02:04 PM
  3. [MBTItm] The XNFP and restlessness.
    By CrystalViolet in forum The NF Idyllic (ENFP, INFP, ENFJ, INFJ)
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 04-06-2011, 09:06 PM
  4. Hate to do this guys but...types and selfishness
    By FalseHeartDothKnow in forum Myers-Briggs and Jungian Cognitive Functions
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 06-01-2010, 11:11 AM
  5. [Fi] Are Fi and selfishness related?
    By Lightyear in forum The NF Idyllic (ENFP, INFP, ENFJ, INFJ)
    Replies: 235
    Last Post: 07-16-2009, 05:51 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO