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    I love to look, but I don't touch; as Fidelia said, their distractability makes us feel neglected - and this is my one and only scruple with ENTP's. There is nothing more offensive to me than fickleness.

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    I don't know about that. I feel like my INXJ friends and my girlfriend understand me almost better than anyone else. So, in that sense, I do need them. I am rather plagued by isolation. Even when I'm with people.
    I do believe that among the extroverts, ENTP's are probably the most subject to isolation, seeing as you're all insane , but I wouldn't go so far as to compare an ENTP's isolation to that of an INFJ's. ENTP's have a natural way with people (easily extending warmth and friendliness, making good first impression etc.). ENTP's (generally speaking), are more apt to engage in small talk with strangers, and are not nearly as selective, when making new friends. I think Wyst makes a valid piont *shrug*
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    Quote Originally Posted by lane777 View Post
    I love to look, but I don't touch; as Fidelia said, their distractability makes us feel neglected - and this is my one and only scruple with ENTP's. There is nothing more offensive to me than fickleness.
    Fear can be mistaken as fickleness.

    I do believe that among the extroverts, ENTP's are probably the most subject to isolation, seeing as you're all insane , but I wouldn't go so far as to compare an ENTP's isolation to that of an INFJ's. ENTP's have a natural way with people (easily extending warmth and friendliness, making good first impression etc.). ENTP's (generally speaking), are more apt to engage in small talk with strangers, and are not nearly as selective, when making new friends. I think Wyst makes a valid piont *shrug*
    What could possibly feel more alone than being surrounded with people yet close to no one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lane777 View Post
    I love to look, but I don't touch; as Fidelia said, their distractability makes us feel neglected - and this is my one and only scruple with ENTP's. There is nothing more offensive to me than fickleness.
    Yes, I do have trouble dealing with inconsistency in people. Easy to take it personally, even if at the same time I know I probably shouldn't.

    Synarch, re. goonies.

    Well, in the end, wasn't meant to be, wouldn't have been the ideal individuals for me anyway, so all worked out for the best. Moving onward!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadeco View Post
    Synarch, re. goonies.

    Well, in the end, wasn't meant to be, wouldn't have been the ideal individuals for me anyway, so all worked out for the best. Moving onward!
    That's the spirit. You have to keep swinging for the fences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    What could possibly feel more alone than being surrounded with people yet close to no one?
    Yep. That's how a lot of people feel while living in NYC.

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    One thing that you've helped me better understand is that ENTPs are actually a good deal more affected by what happens to them than one may initially believe based on what they see on the surface. I think that's actually one of the factors that makes them interesting to me. I've considered the fact though that an unhealthy ENTP could really do a number on me because of the flashes of sincerity and longing for closeness, mixed with what looks like distance and fickleness. That push/pull dynamic can be rather compelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fidelia View Post
    One thing that you've helped me better understand is that ENTPs are actually a good deal more affected by what happens to them than one may initially believe based on what they see on the surface. I think that's actually one of the factors that makes them interesting to me. I've considered the fact though that an unhealthy ENTP could really do a number on me because of the flashes of sincerity and longing for closeness, mixed with what looks like distance and fickleness. That push/pull dynamic can be rather compelling.
    It's the tantalizing trap of codependency. Was your father distant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    Yes, but you're actually ISFJ.
    How do you figure?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainbows View Post
    How do you figure?
    Just a feeling.
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    I think it has more to do with me liking people that are not easy to figure out. Often people who aren't easy to figure out aren't emotionally healthy which makes them behave in contradictory ways. It took me awhile to learn to recognize the difference between truly confident men, and men who just hide their insecurities in strong-appearing ways.

    My dad was quite warm and very approving and supportive. He is an ISTJ though whose upbringing and birth order made it so that no one sees much of his inner world. I think that's a loss for everyone involved. My mum's an ENFJ.

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