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    Default If Anger is Taboo, is Deep Thought Possible?

    "To think deeply in our culture is to grow angry and to anger others; and if you cannot tolerate this anger, you are wasting the time you spend thinking deeply. One of the rewards to deep thought is the hot glow of anger at discovering a wrong, but if anger is taboo, thought will starve to death."

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    Deep thought seems incompatible with intense anger.

    It's far more effective to accept the situation, and arrive at what what your next action is, and do it. Use that anger as an energy source to change the situation - it is an effective motivator - but don't be too surprised if you get burnt out, depressed, corrupted, or the situation blows up in your face as a result.
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    I agree with Bamboo over using anger as an energy source. Even negative emotions, channeled properly, can have positive effects.

    My problem with the quote in the OP is the use of the word 'anger'. It just doesn't feel right to me. If you replace 'anger' with 'passion' however, then we're getting somewhere.

    You have to be passionate about your values or they'll crumble without that strength. You have to be passionate about a cause to truly make a difference. Without passion, you're just going through the motions. One way passion can manifest itself is as anger though.

    Its not just 'anger' the quote refers to, but more of a 'Righteous Anger', the anger at a wrong which must be righted. I believe that kind of anger depends on what is being contemplated but is not necessary for ALL deep thought.

    ...Yeah, I think the quote narrowed in on the wrong emotion.
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    Sounds like complete bollocks to me. I don't think deep thought necessarily produces or attracts anger, and I don't think anger is taboo. I'm guessing Jules Henry was an angry man.

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    anger is associated with loss. we all "grow up," whatever that means, and confront our finitudes and limitations. paradigm shifts, thistles and thorns, bleeding hands. anger can become confining however (liberation - confinement, womb/tomb theme) when we become comfortable in condemnation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    "To think deeply in our culture is to grow angry and to anger others; and if you cannot tolerate this anger, you are wasting the time you spend thinking deeply. One of the rewards to deep thought is the hot glow of anger at discovering a wrong, but if anger is taboo, thought will starve to death."

    -Jules Henry


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    This sounds like the personal justification of a flaw more than anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    "To think deeply in our culture is to grow angry and to anger others; and if you cannot tolerate this anger, you are wasting the time you spend thinking deeply. One of the rewards to deep thought is the hot glow of anger at discovering a wrong, but if anger is taboo, thought will starve to death." -Jules Henry

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    Yes -- what's the context, if any?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamboo View Post
    Deep thought seems incompatible with intense anger.
    Precisely my thought

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    "our culture"

    Which culture? There isn't only one.

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    Anger motivates towards action moreso than thought, I think. It is a useful emotion in unifying people towards an action. This can result in the common good or the common destruction, but it is powerful for motivation.

    Some people might integrate emotion into their thinking as their natural course, and in that case it would not make sense to push that person towards compartmentalization. I don't think a personal style can be projected onto others though. Deep thought also results from detachment as much as involvement, but the nature of the thoughts can be different. I suspect that deep thought involving strong emotion is based on a strong attachment to one's place in reality. Deep thought resulting from letting go of emotion and attachment will tend to view one's place in reality from a distance. Detachment is more likely to view the big picture than intense involvement. It is an assumption to say that only the big picture results in depth of thought. There is a kind of focus and depth that can result from a personal perspective as well.
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