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    I started off in biochem/biophysics, but now am in Marketing. The plus side is I am the smartest person in my group. The downside-good god what is wrong with these people...

    Strengths-
    Much better at troubleshooting than the NTs-NeTe processes the big picture and can identify patterns that dont match quite right. I can work with a very limited set of data and still make valid conclusions about 80% of the time. I also know what I dont know.

    Weaknesses-
    I am kinda bored. I have to have an emotional investment in what I do or I dont care and will then spend time doing things like posting here. I also dont always complete things. Another downside is in being able to see the big picture-I can see the long term repercussions of dumb choices made at the top and thus realize all my efforts are pointless. It's often obvious.

    There are two INFPs at my company in lab positions but they dont seem to seek upwards mobility. I just found another very young ENFP female though. She is only about 22, but has a beautifully refined Te. She can use it without any trace of emo and comes across as very confident, even when disagreeing with her VP. She is awesome to watch. My new boss and my new COO and one of the VPs are all ENFPs. Our new portfolio manager is also an ENFP. He is impressive as well.

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    I am a transportation engineer by training, but have migrated more toward urban planning since I've been out of school (almost 3 years now, at the same job), though I still do a lot of analysis-type stuff. My job actually gives me a lot of identity issues, so I'm not even sure if it's a good fit for me. I really really care about sustainable transportation (especially transit and pedestrian/streetscape facilities), and I'm fortunate to be able to be working in a field about which I feel so strongly. A lot of the time it's really fun - learning new techniques, working with clients, coming up with solutions to tricky problems, etc. But there is a lot that really drains me.

    My strengths
    • explaining concepts to clients/writing reports
    • graphical work
    • figuring out how to do complicated problems
    • improvising/presentations


    My weaknesses are like a lot of other people's
    • issues with details
    • getting tired of the routine
    • time management
    • asking for help
    • focusing
    • cubicle


    Actually, I feel almost like a shell of my former self at work recently. I did two internships while I was in college, and those were so fun. I was always playing silly little games/tricks and chatting, able to be myself a lot more, yet somehow still really functional. And even when I first started at this job I felt like I could be myself more. Now I almost feel like to be taken seriously as I grow in my career that I cannot be like that. So then I don't feel as motivated to want to do a good job and it's really hard for me to focus. And it's just making me feel really stupid/incompetent, when I know I am capable of really complex thinking.

    And I'm pretty sure a lot of the pressure is self-inflicted. My company is a great place to work and my employers are really supportive and kind.

    But something has got to change - I'm not sure what or how yet...

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    ^ you mention the cubicle ... a palace and prison of solitude ...

    still be yourself; as long as you achieve results, others will at the least tolerate and at best enjoy what you bring to the work environment. And you will be happier for it.
    "Remember always that you not only have the right to be an individual, you have an obligation to be one."
    Eleanor Roosevelt


    "When people see some things as beautiful,
    other things become ugly.
    When people see some things as good,
    other things become bad."
    Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

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    Your signature quote is so fitting for that advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seymour View Post
    I am curious about hearing from other NFs in technical fields, and what they feel like their strengths and weaknesses are relative to their peers.
    Web programmer and database administer.

    My strength is my ability to be good with both the human aspect of IT development (the customer) with the technical implementation of programming. I enjoy trying to figure out what the customer needs and making it into step-by-step reality. It's challenging, but rewarding. I'm a good self-learner.

    On the down side, I am a bit of a jack-of-all-trades but expert in none. Part of that is my current job. In school, I was better than most, but I felt I had to try harder and there were people who clearly were built for this type of work that blew me away. This job doesn't play on my natural gifts as much as I wish.

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    Since Scott mentioned me specifically, I suppose it's only polite to reply.

    I've worked in microelectronics for 29 years now. I currently work in an analytical lab. No, I don't like my job but that's because it isn't meaningful according to my value system. Back when I was a student, I typed as INTP so my priorities were different.

    My strengths:
    • Organized
    • Quickly see what needs to be done
    • Bursts of high output as needed
    • Ability to connect diverse dots to see bigger picture
    • Strong communicator both orally and in writing
    • Enjoy problem solving
    • Good at teaching and training others
    • Good at developing processes and procedures
    • Love mentoring


    My weaknesses:
    • I loathe my job and it's hard to get motivated. This has been exacerbated by the fact we don't interact face to face with customers much any more so I don't know whether my data are of any use.
    • Find conflict a waste of time and energy.
    • Dislike networking. Plus I don't resonate with most people here.
    • Dislike some routine work.
    • Inadequately challenged but not motivated enough to seek more.
    • Get frustrated with bureaucracy and management inadequacies. Hard to accept "what is".


    I'm actually probably not a good one to ask because although I can get by (and my management actually thinks highly of me), I'm actively seeking something more people-oriented and less technical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alchemiss View Post
    Since Scott mentioned me specifically, I suppose it's only polite to reply.

    I've worked in microelectronics for 29 years now. I currently work in an analytical lab. No, I don't like my job but that's because it isn't meaningful according to my value system. Back when I was a student, I typed as INTP so my priorities were different.

    My strengths:
    • Organized
    • Quickly see what needs to be done
    • Bursts of high output as needed
    • Ability to connect diverse dots to see bigger picture
    • Strong communicator both orally and in writing
    • Enjoy problem solving
    • Good at teaching and training others
    • Good at developing processes and procedures
    • Love mentoring


    My weaknesses:
    • I loathe my job and it's hard to get motivated. This has been exacerbated by the fact we don't interact face to face with customers much any more so I don't know whether my data are of any use.
    • Find conflict a waste of time and energy.
    • Dislike networking. Plus I don't resonate with most people here.
    • Dislike some routine work.
    • Inadequately challenged but not motivated enough to seek more.
    • Get frustrated with bureaucracy and management inadequacies. Hard to accept "what is".


    Al, aren't I mean? [mentioning your name as someone who could contribute to this thread]

    I'm actually probably not a good one to ask because although I can get by (and my management actually thinks highly of me), I'm actively seeking something more people-oriented and less technical.
    I'm still debating whether to give my own answers to this thread or not, but for now I will say that I agree with [ie it applies to me and my situation], most of what alchemiss said

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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    I am a transportation engineer by training, but have migrated more toward urban planning since I've been out of school (almost 3 years now, at the same job), though I still do a lot of analysis-type stuff. My job actually gives me a lot of identity issues, so I'm not even sure if it's a good fit for me. I really really care about sustainable transportation (especially transit and pedestrian/streetscape facilities), and I'm fortunate to be able to be working in a field about which I feel so strongly. A lot of the time it's really fun - learning new techniques, working with clients, coming up with solutions to tricky problems, etc. But there is a lot that really drains me.

    My strengths
    • explaining concepts to clients/writing reports
    • graphical work
    • figuring out how to do complicated problems
    • improvising/presentations


    My weaknesses are like a lot of other people's
    • issues with details
    • getting tired of the routine
    • time management
    • asking for help
    • focusing
    • cubicle


    Actually, I feel almost like a shell of my former self at work recently. I did two internships while I was in college, and those were so fun. I was always playing silly little games/tricks and chatting, able to be myself a lot more, yet somehow still really functional. And even when I first started at this job I felt like I could be myself more. Now I almost feel like to be taken seriously as I grow in my career that I cannot be like that. So then I don't feel as motivated to want to do a good job and it's really hard for me to focus. And it's just making me feel really stupid/incompetent, when I know I am capable of really complex thinking.

    And I'm pretty sure a lot of the pressure is self-inflicted. My company is a great place to work and my employers are really supportive and kind.

    But something has got to change - I'm not sure what or how yet...
    The being taken "seriously" has sort of become a turning point for me. At my company I would have to become tert Fe like and start playing political games. Also my current area-Marketing-is very networking heavy, very political. When I am serious I dont do politics well, instead I power through problems. My Te managers actually give me a lot of room and respect me, even if they think I am weird. Given my company, there are no shortage of problems to power through.

    I kinda get pulled in different directions-I want to be a fun little kid and work-play. I can do this with Te users. But the Fe users put a very shiny facade on everything and since I have no Fe, all I can do is become more serious-thus assertive. The contrast the Fe users see between work and work-play must appear false as they dont respond well. I recognize the "shell" description as well.

    Funny thing happens when you stick a bunch of ENFPs in a room together to think. They stop smiling and being nice. They all get this sort of blank expression, there eyes look just a touch dull, they get a tiny bit slack jawed while they listen.

    Then they begin discussing things. It proceeds quickly-you can see the same need for quick resolution-we can only focus for so long. You can also see us all "see" past the simple stuff as well. Whole chunks of convo get skipped, as we all recognize the high points-the pivot points of the issue. You can also see what others will call "bitchiness". One user will state a fact-a Te judgment-but the tone of voice is decidedly emo flavored with fairly intense facial gestures. The other enfps dont question this or even care-yet others call us emo due to this.

    I wonder-if we really cant access Te without using Fi-then when we tap into Te, even if it really is a logic based choice, we dont have an inherent value based visceral response. That is not logical=yucky Fi vibes=facial expressions of disgust?

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