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    Quote Originally Posted by ofugur View Post
    What draws my INTPs friends and me together is that we understand and appreciate each other's weird imaginations that we usually hide from others.
    This too! We tend to understand each others' sense of humor and communicate clearly without having to explain everything. We tend to know when the other one is kidding, and to appreciate the way in which it was done.

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    "I feel like I can be myself around you. Youre more like me. When I met you I thought you were someone that wouldnt judge me" - ENFJ explaining to ENTP why she dumped her ESTJ boyfriend for him

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    Quote Originally Posted by sakuraba View Post
    "I feel like I can be myself around you. Youre more like me. When I met you I thought you were someone that wouldnt judge me" - ENFJ explaining to ENTP why she dumped her ESTJ boyfriend for him
    That's probably more a comment on the great S/N divide.

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    I could never see myself dating an ESTJ. I know an ENFJ who married one, and even though I love ESTJs for who they are, marriage would be out of the question. I'm not even attracted to them. Nor Js for that matter. Mano-y-mano with Js, but business isn't love. Not for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPiranha View Post
    I could never see myself dating an ESTJ. I know an ENFJ who married one, and even though I love ESTJs for who they are, marriage would be out of the question. I'm not even attracted to them. Nor Js for that matter. Mano-y-mano with Js, but business isn't love. Not for me.
    So you're attracted to the P-ness?

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    Yes. I have enough J-ness to go around as it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INFPWoman View Post
    I am an INFP and the "love of my life" was an INTP. He is not the person I stayed with the longest but was with him several years, was intensely in love with him, and never really got over it. For a little while, at least, he was also intensely attached to me.

    I was at first very confused by his seeming lack of internal emotions. I would search and pry and prod him to find out his feelings about any number of things and he eventually confessed to me that he didn't have very many feelings about anything, which I found very odd. I didn't know about the MBTI at the time.

    At the same time I was fascinated by his ability to solve so many problems and understand so many things that I would have never figured out. It seemed like he could do or fix almost anything, and for the most part he was so sweet about it.

    At first I think he enjoyed basking in my positive emotions for him; and in a way he appreciated my ability to help him at least figure out a little bit how he felt about things; but eventually he got bored with me and tired of my overemotionality.

    I almost would think that INTP's were the type for me since I am so attracted to their NT, but, honestly I would fear that I would eventually be rejected for not be exiting enough and overly emotional, due to that experience.

    I'm definately not representative of INFP's though, because I have other personality quirks involved.
    I'm dating an INTP right now -- he totally fascinates me! We have talked many-a-times about his lack of emotions, which really does intrigue me. I think I have enough emotions for the both of us. After 3-years, I am hoping that we'll stay the course.

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    What does everyone make of the so called "NT-NF Spiral of Death"?

    intjlist.org - Articles - The NT/NF Death Spiral

    Stage 1: NT meets NF. NF is enamoured of NT, falls head over heels. NT is characteristically cautious, but interested. NFs are fun, after all.

    Stage 2: NF appreciates and admires many characteristics of the NT and thus begins to behave more like an NT, perhaps even fooling the NT into thinking s/he is an NT. NT then relaxes, figuring s/he's with a kindred spirit, gets more comfortable with the relationship, starts acting like normal NT self, expecting to be understood.

    Stage 3: NF feels NT cooling off and wonders what s/he is doing wrong. Tries to be more like NT to compensate. This doesn't feel right. NF gets needy and/or begins to consider is her/his duty to draw the NT out of her/his shell, encouraging the NT to express all those feelings buried deep inside. NT doesn't get it.

    Stage 4: NT feels pressure from NFs emotional demands, needs distance to figure things out. (This might be only INTs. I'm not sure.) NF panics, becomes more needy. NT withdraws more...NF needs more...and so on and so on.

    Stage 5: NF suddenly realizes that the reason things aren't working is that the NT is cold and unfeeling or not nurturing or some other horrible thing. Abandons NT without looking back. (This is especially likely with the NFPs.) NT is confused and (sometimes) relieved.
    This seems to succintly describe an elusive, recurring dynamic in NT/NF relations. Presumably, this "Death Spiral" description was originally created by an INTJ.

    Personally, I've seen this dynamic occur in the past, or at least had several occations where NF's suddenly start testing (erroneously) as NT's after being exposed to my rationalism. It seems the common response is that there is an element of maturity which changes this dynamic for better (mature) or worse (immature). However, setting maturity aside, do you think that there is something like this going on in the interaction of NF to NT personalities? Is it inevitable? Is there a way to circumvent or forestall this "Death Spiral"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollonian View Post
    What does everyone make of the so called "NT-NF Spiral of Death"?

    intjlist.org - Articles - The NT/NF Death Spiral



    This seems to succintly describe an elusive, recurring dynamic in NT/NF relations. Presumably, this "Death Spiral" description was originally created by an INTJ.

    Personally, I've seen this dynamic occur in the past, or at least had several occations where NF's suddenly start testing (erroneously) as NT's after being exposed to my rationalism. It seems the common response is that there is an element of maturity which changes this dynamic for better (mature) or worse (immature). However, setting maturity aside, do you think that there is something like this going on in the interaction of NF to NT personalities? Is it inevitable? Is there a way to circumvent or forestall this "Death Spiral"?
    I think the primary factor in this, as you said, is one of simple self-awareness. If both parties in an NF/NT relationship are aware of their own tendencies, the drive to be something else to better please the other person is reduced. I do believe it's a recurring trend mostly on the NF side of things, because most NTs are actually likely to dig in their heels rather than give up logic for woolly emotions.

    Is it necessarily a bad thing to learn new ways of processing information? Of course not. Every well-balanced Feeler should know how to think "rationally" in certain situations and every well-balanced Thinker should know how to sense the emotional undercurrents in themselves and others. The problem comes in when it turns from temporarily wearing another hat to The Talented Mr. Ripley. A healthy relationship cannot be built on a lie, which is what a person subsuming themselves to be more like another "wants" turns into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollonian View Post
    What does everyone make of the so called "NT-NF Spiral of Death"?

    intjlist.org - Articles - The NT/NF Death Spiral



    This seems to succintly describe an elusive, recurring dynamic in NT/NF relations. Presumably, this "Death Spiral" description was originally created by an INTJ.

    Personally, I've seen this dynamic occur in the past, or at least had several occations where NF's suddenly start testing (erroneously) as NT's after being exposed to my rationalism. It seems the common response is that there is an element of maturity which changes this dynamic for better (mature) or worse (immature). However, setting maturity aside, do you think that there is something like this going on in the interaction of NF to NT personalities? Is it inevitable? Is there a way to circumvent or forestall this "Death Spiral"?
    Um. My NT was the head-over-heels one and I was the cautious-but-interested one. I never believed the level of his initial emotions was sustainable. I expected him too cool off and was kind of braced for it. It didn't make me not feel a little abandoned, but I didn't freak, either.

    We had both done a fair bit of reading on relationships before we met, so we already knew about some of the pitfalls to watch out for. One of those things was the chase/run cycle. When he withdrew, I knew not to chase even though I felt sad and lonely. I kept myself busy with other interests the best I could and eventually he came round.

    I hate the whole thing where people think they have to draw their partners out. It smacks of disrespect to me. A person should be free to share thoughts and feelings, but not poked and prodded and squeezed to force them out. If you do that you are probably not going to like what you get. Regardless of how one feels, they should treat their partner with respect and consideration. They are a partner, not a project. (This is in reference to normal relationship stuff, not gross violations like abuse or cheating.)
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