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    Quote Originally Posted by athenian200 View Post
    Since you didn't quote it in context, ....
    It's here in the second paragraph under Careers.
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    I'd interpreted the statement as having to deal with manifesting archetypal traits based off MBTI synopses of INFJs and to a lesser extent elaborations of the INFJ's most prominent functions of the functional analysis. Oftentimes I find myself falling back on being INFJ as a crutch of sorts whenever I don't do well at something, particularly something most find easy and thusly dealing with the tangible (S) world. Most of you will probably look at that disdainfully but that's the case as far as I go. I was surprised that no one seemed to share that interpretation here as of yet, and made me a little bit more hesitant to post this, but again, it's the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellbourn3 View Post
    I'd interpreted the statement as having to deal with manifesting archetypal traits based off MBTI synopses of INFJs and to a lesser extent elaborations of the INFJ's most prominent functions of the functional analysis. Oftentimes I find myself falling back on being INFJ as a crutch of sorts whenever I don't do well at something, particularly something most find easy and thusly dealing with the tangible (S) world. Most of you will probably look at that disdainfully but that's the case as far as I go. I was surprised that no one seemed to share that interpretation here as of yet, and made me a little bit more hesitant to post this, but again, it's the truth.

    I think this is an extremely valid way to describe yourself. If one can't tailor the entire world to an INFJ way of being, then recognizing one's own gifts and weaknesses and accepting them is the next-best thing. You don't necessarily have to make yourself more than you already are--into some kind of ST. Thank you for giving you perspective on this so candidly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    Since you didn't quote it in context, I'm not sure. I have a few guesses, though.

    1. They are more vulnerable to random thoughts they cannot shake.

    2. They are the NF type most likely to be frustrated by their own idealism, realizing how pointless it is to seek those ideals, yet unable to be fulfilled without pursuing them.

    3. They are the NF type most likely to become frustrated by typical NF behavior.

    4. They are more likely to attempt to live out unconscious archetypes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by something boring View Post
    OMG! Whoever let you into my head is fired!
    Its mass mind control then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    You shouldn't worry about that at all. I think you need to translate "vulnerable" as "aware" & "archetypal material" as "inner mechanics/dynamics of your mind".
    In other words : INFJ is the type most aware of dynamics of the mind/psyche. We're psychologists after all.
    I think the word archetype in this context is ambiguous & misleading.
    I could believe this one because I seem so aware of how and why I think. The driving force people don't know or want to believe is hidden from them, while I can see it well in myself and sometimes others. I think this is the part that gives us the 'conspiracy theorist' or 'psychoanalyst' monikers. We see the top of the water while everyone is swimming in the coral. We guess what parts of the coral are where because we have the birds-eye view with N.

    Ive always believed that I never truly learned the bits and pieces of things, but that I get those from the big picture my unconscious pieced together from the things I don't pay a lot of attention to.

    Like peeling away the conscious actions and finding the unconscious/semi-unconscious under it. Most of this information comes in a vibe that I understand, but cant communicate in language. This can cause me to be so aloof because I'm translating it and associating it with the other vibes I get.

    That is then integrated into his theory of synchronicity, to (here's where I may be adding my own interpretation) suggest that some meaningful coincidences occur between seemingly unrelated objects because the components are actually playing out part of a larger archetype or pattern of reality that we aren't perceptive enough to notice (or just don't have the ability to draw information on the scope and magnitude necessary to see it).
    It happens to me all the time while listening to music. A section of lyrics reminds me of something, out of context, and sometimes it is inspiring, sometimes I cant listen to the song anymore because of those lines. ( An example would be 'Come to Daddy' by Aphex Twin. The lines in it make me scared for my soul, so I cant listen to it without feeling edgy.)


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    In my attempt to find context through google:

    "Did you mean: INFANTs are the most vulnerable to their archetypal material"



    But here is the context (oops, just saw INTJMom's contribution!):
    INFJs make outstanding individual therapists who have the ability to get in touch with the archetypes of their patients in a way some other types do not. The INFJs are also the most vulnerable of all the types to the eruption of their own archetypal material. As therapists, INFJs may choose counseling, clinical psychology, or psychiatry, or may choose to teach in these fields. Writing about these professions often intrigues an INFJ. Whatever their choice, they generally are successful in these fields because their great personal warmth, their enthusiasm, their insight, their depth of concentrations, their originality, and their organizational skills can all be brought into play.
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    Is it not the balance between understanding yourself (knowing your archetype) and being able to control your instincts in the way you desire?

    Eruption = uncontrolled.

    What I'm seeing is that an INFJ is happily going along, then suddenly the whole concept of 'being INFJ' takes over and they act out the role of the SUPER-INFJ while inside a little voice is asking what on earth is going on?

    Ni - I understand the essential qualities of my role.
    Fe - I feel the need to play out my role. Okay I will play out my role.
    Ni - Playing out this role gives me more understanding about the essential qualities of my role (not to mention other people, woohoo!).
    Fe - People are responding well to me playing out this role, I will continue.
    Ni - I am attaining even more understanding the more I play this--oh f*** it, just feed me!! FEED ME!!
    Fe - OKAY!
    (Shadow-Fi) - dude, this is not you!
    Ni + Fe - Shush!
    (All other functions) - Your energy reserves are depleting.
    Ni + Fe - It doesn't matter! I'm on the cusp of some stroke of glorious Ni-insight and understanding! With this I will take care of the world!!
    (Se + Hint of shadow Te)- Take care?? Don't you want to take OVER the world??
    Ti - Look, you don't need to take care of EVERYONE you know.
    Ni + Fe - Lalalallalaala!!
    Se - I'll handle this! (dunks INFJ into pool of chocolate)


    I think this is why I associate INFJs with sighs and .

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    ^lol!

    I don't like what you're describing either! I feel like a foreign object in comparison to half of the INFJ descriptions on the internet, and I in no way want to live out a caricature - I want to be more balanced than that. And if you fall too deeply into mbti, it can be too easy to take it far more seriously than it should be taken..and you then start being prone to acting out how you're 'supposed' to be acting out.
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    And if you fall too deeply into mbti, it can be too easy to take it far more seriously than it should be taken..and you then start being prone to acting out how you're 'supposed' to be acting out.
    Absolutely.

    I interpreted Kiersey's phrase as saying that INFJs are more prone to 'acting out their type'... it doesn't mean I agree with it though.

    Incidentally, I should emphasise that the OP's quotation was not exactly like the one I found at the site I linked.

    The INFJs are also the most vulnerable of all the types to the eruption of their own archetypal material.
    The extra words completely change the meaning.
    Last edited by sciski; 03-19-2009 at 07:45 PM. Reason: Clarifying the quote from Kiersey! And reclarification!

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    Drat. Now I need one of the geniuses here to translate it into American so I can understand what it means now!

    I stand by my other post. >.>
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