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    Quote Originally Posted by IZthe411 View Post
    I tihnk it's more balance and maturity.
    Yes. If one want to interact in the big world(prabably from an N pov), one can't stay a kid the rest of your life.

    I like this thread. A lot of great tips about how you can empower your own situation, if one think it sucks.

    Now, to the real challenge, actually doing this. you guys up for it?

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    ^ every day
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    Quote Originally Posted by sleepy View Post
    Yes. If one want to interact in the big world(prabably from an N pov), one can't stay a kid the rest of your life.

    I like this thread. A lot of great tips about how you can empower your own situation, if one think it sucks.

    Now, to the real challenge, actually doing this. you guys up for it?

    I know what being an adult means according to the SJ definition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purplesunset View Post
    I know what being an adult means according to the SJ definition.

    Click here ------> Screw that !!!!<------ Click here
    Yea, that's the catch. You can't have it both ways....that...would not...be...fair!!!

    Or even, who is going to take care of the children? Someone got to do it.

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    Only during small talk and gross anatomy.
    The former because I'm not interested in tangibles like weather which makes the conversation obnoxious, and the latter because N's tend to suck at rote memorization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenix13 View Post
    I'm not interested in tangibles like weather which makes the conversation obnoxious
    I dont get it. There is nothing that tells you as much about the future(and are not Ns conserned about the future) as the weather. It's the greatest conversation one can have. Butterfly effect is an exclusive meteorological phenomena. It's all concrete matter interacting...How that can be obnoxious is beyond me.

    There is no greater conversational subject imo.

    But you would like to talk about MBTI? srsly. You can't expect a real sensor to concern themselves with this. There are rockets to be built, spaceships to be launched. Planets to explore. Reality isn't in your head it's out there...

    But I'll grant you, playing is fun, in limited doses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenix13 View Post
    Only during small talk and gross anatomy.
    The former because I'm not interested in tangibles like weather which makes the conversation obnoxious, and the latter because we N's tend to suck at rote memorization.
    Essentially any topic can be made to go more indepth. Are intuitives here really against discussing tangible things or is this just influence from 'Type'? Considering that many NFs (At least my IFJ peers) appear to be motivated by understanding people themselves. This whole distinction between 'tangible' and 'intangible' doesn't really make much sense considering that all ideas must have an origin in something physical, even if it's been bounced off some other concept.

    Regardless, it doesn't seem particular fair to attribute small talk to being a sensor based issue. Considering we're dealing with a large amount of the population, there's bound to be a greater chance of encountering an individual that indulges in such activities and tests as sensors. Not to mention, that small talk is usually occurs between two people who aren't comfortable with each other. Given that intuitives identify with other intuitives, the perceived similarity will have an effect on establishing deeper grounds from the start than other friendships. An anology of this would be ethnic minorities within the UK who find that they are able to skip the social pleasentries when they discover others like them. Sensors, who identify/click with other sensors are more likely to skip this process, otherwise they're more keen on keeping things at a superficial surface interaction. I'm stating the obvious now, but it's not like all sensors will click with each other and I know for certain that most of my friends (7+ sensors) all agree with me that they hate talking about what they perceive as small talk.

    Bottomline: If the interaction is shallow (as opposed to detailed - I'll admit that might be an annoying factor in conversations) then it just means that a connection hasn't really been formed. Then again, perhaps what it is perceived as small talk isn't really small talk at all to the speaker themselves, it's totally possible to have completely different interests and different motivations for having conversations. For example: I like to learn things when interacting with other people/reading forums. Where as others are just more happy to interact casually offering no real conversation topics, in that sense, the social prescence takes higher priority.

    The above makes me think of the amount of times when people interact with their friends, occasionally resorting to topics that is often deemed as 'small talk' and silence. Unless of course intuitives here, are going to claim that their conversations with friends never involve the more 'mundane' life? In which case I'll take my words back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Esoteric Wench View Post
    Well maybe it's just in the way they articulate it. I will have to say, for an S, your post sounds very conceptual. Most Ss I know couldn't... or at least wouldn't... write something like this.
    Well, there's a (fairly obvious ) reason for that. The Sensors who are members of this forum have at least a passing interest in either psychology or at least personality type theories as a means to better communication and/or self-understanding. So, we are more prone to conceptual posting than the "average S."

    But just as there are many Sensors with little or no interest in conceptual matters, there are also quite a few Intuitives who might not appear to be also just from surface conversations. A forum like this one is kind of an equalizer, in the sense that the very fact that the premise of the forum is the differences in people, most people who participate here are more open to the idea that there are different methods of communicating and considering the same stuff.
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    ^^^ That's why he's a cool dude. He can be down-to-earth and think about stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvyak View Post
    Yeah, didn't notice that last statement, sorry. The "S folks can't articulate their thoughts conceptually"-stuff seems a little stupid though.
    Oh god, I don't know how to articulate the clear thoughts that I have, and I don't know why I do anything in my life!!! AAAAHHH!!! I'm such a drone!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    Well, there's a (fairly obvious ) reason for that. The Sensors who are members of this forum have at least a passing interest in either psychology or at least personality type theories as a means to better communication and/or self-understanding. So, we are more prone to conceptual posting than the "average S."



    But just as there are many Sensors with little or no interest in conceptual matters, there are also quite a few Intuitives who might not appear to be also just from surface conversations. A forum like this one is kind of an equalizer, in the sense that the very fact that the premise of the forum is the differences in people, most people who participate here are more open to the idea that there are different methods of communicating and considering the same stuff.
    Yes, I totally agree with this and this is something that people need to realize. Sensing and intuition are ways of thinking. Intuition doesn't mean that someone is interested in theory; just because you meet an N doesn't mean you will instantly click and have a million things in common. A lot of the Ns that I know really aren't that interested in theory, but they clearly think like an intuitive. Theoretical interest is just, well, an interest. Nothing that correlates to this theory. It's funny, all of these Ns go here and feel a sense of community. They talk with other Ns about this theory, and miss the obvious- that this is just a shared interest. The way that someone will approach theory shows S vs N, yes, but otherwise no. Finding shared hobbies and interests>everything for friendship etc, not typology preferences.
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