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    Awhile ago, Udog started a thread about Fi-Si loops for INFPs, as this seems to be a common pitfall that many INFPs fall into. He was discussing what functions could possibly help pull out a person who gets stuck in this loop. (I believe his conclusion was Ne).

    Z Buck's recent thread, as well as OrangeAppled's comment in it about this made me start considering whether every type has a dom-tert loop? If so, what would it look like?

    I know that I have gotten "stuck" in a repeating loop a few times. It particularly occurs when I am trying to write papers that matter to me. I cannot ruthlessly cut out extraneous information and come up with a proper outline, even though I am fabulous at doing it with anyone else's work. This has caused me incredible amounts of time, stress and headache. I also have great difficulties summarizing the plot of a movie etc. Is this Ni-Ti? If so, what function would be the one that would help pull me out of that loop?

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    I think a thread I made (Working the INFJ Function Yo-yo) would answer this question for Ni loops.

    From the pattern I've seen in myself: Fe is your secondary function, so it catalyses the primary function's energy regeneration, making an energy building loop. Try talking about whatever project you have with someone. That would move the problem away from yourself and into a neutral zone (because someone else is discussing it) and will make it easier for Fe to zero in on it, pulling Ni along in a more focused way. Ni that is unfocused has little use, just like all the other types.
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    Do you think each type has a loop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fidelia View Post
    Do you think each type has a loop?
    I think so, but I wouldn't know. Ask SolitaryWalker for the long version.

    I mean, it's pretty feasable. The loops are made when the primary function decides that using the tertiary function is the best way to make conclusions.
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    Ti-Si loops are common commented on for INTPs.
    There is some discussion here.

    I think some cog func theory is a speculation too far.
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    Fidelia, your loop would be Ni-Ti.

    And yes, I do think every type has its loop.

    I'd love to hear how they work in other types.

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    My loop tends to involve over-analysis of possibilities and not being able to figure out which one is 'right'. Spinning around in circles reassessing all of them, but not able to hone in well.

    Or, I spiral down into negative thoughts/perceptions of the world and Life and find myself in a bit of an existential crisis. That sort of thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadeco View Post
    My loop tends to involve over-analysis of possibilities and not being able to figure out which one is 'right'. Spinning around in circles reassessing all of them, but not able to hone in well.

    Or, I spiral down into negative thoughts/perceptions of the world and Life and find myself in a bit of an existential crisis. That sort of thing.
    So, would this then be because Fe hasn't been fed enough information to assess the 'right' path?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aphrodite-gone-awry View Post
    So, would this then be because Fe hasn't been fed enough information to assess the 'right' path?
    Honestly, I don't know. I think things can get more convoluted if you try to tie cognitive functions to everything.

    For myself all I know is I get too inward and formulate ideas, and stay inward because I think I'll eventually be able to figure it out by brainpower/analysis alone (when usually that's not the case) - I stop the process of checking externally or getting feedback on whether or not any of my conjectures actually reflect reality. (at least for the first paragraph. The second paragraph is entirely internal, though, more of a result of my being generally unhappy/dissatisfied with my life, and then analyzing it so much that I enter the black hole of negativity)
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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadeco View Post
    My loop tends to involve over-analysis of possibilities and not being able to figure out which one is 'right'. Spinning around in circles reassessing all of them, but not able to hone in well.

    Or, I spiral down into negative thoughts/perceptions of the world and find myself in a bit of an existential crisis. That sort of thing.
    I relate to both of these a lot, actually. Especially when I'm not taking in new information/engaging external functions. If I'm left to mull over the same information, too many possibilities present themselves to distinguish a likely truth. Worse, there is no external feedback to either help critique (and thus narrow down) the possibilities I come up with or present new solutions from differing perspectives. At that point, I feel caged in by the same set of facts/parameters that, while static and confining, yield no clear or cogent conclusions/solutions. Obviously I'm not using Ni-Ti, though.
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