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    Quote Originally Posted by nebbykoo View Post
    So...racisms may come from type, but it can't be proven either way because type can't be proven?
    No racism doesn't come from type.

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    Racism comes from power structures and hierarchies. While the sorts of people who prefer to maintain those structures and hierarchies may be more inclined to act in racist ways, the idea that one group of individuals is superior to others, based on any sort of classification, is unfortunately present within all of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    No racism doesn't come from type.
    God forbid we attempt to theoretically associate our principles with our personalities.

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    this thread is racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    God forbid we attempt to theoretically associate our principles with our personalities.
    The fear of 'the other' has been established in pretty much all human cultures. This fear of the other encompasses racism, sexism, xenophobia...it's behind nationalism and family loyalty. While racism may be continually perpetuated by people of certain personality types, that's not where it inherently springs from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    God forbid we attempt to theoretically associate our principles with our personalities.
    Specially considering an NF and an SJ can share some of the same values even though them come from completely different places and for different reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    Specially considering an NF and an SJ can share some of the same values even though them come from completely different places and for different reasons.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    Doesn't matter if you think you're justified in it.

    You're still being racist.
    Could you tell me what I believe, or that Jensen believes, that fits that shoe in your opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    The fear of 'the other' has been established in pretty much all human cultures. This fear of the other encompasses racism, sexism, xenophobia...it's behind nationalism and family loyalty. While racism may be continually perpetuated by people of certain personality types, that's not where it inherently springs from.
    Hah yeah I agree with this for the most part (as I stated earlier), but there is more elaboration that could be done.

    I was kind of just being a pain in the ass for the sake of being obnoxious...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    Specially considering an NF and an SJ can share some of the same values even though them come from completely different places and for different reasons.
    Associating a type with a behavior/value does not imply that other types cannot theoretically possess the same behavior/value.

    A type that does not align with its theoretical behavior/value does not invalidate the abstract theory.

    A behavior that does not align with its theoretical type does not invalidate the abstract theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    God forbid we attempt to theoretically associate our principles with our personalities.

    Yet you haven't made any association. How about these:

    What type is most greedy?
    How about most-likely to objectify women?
    (if you can answer the question regarding racism, then these questions shouldn't be off limits.)
    It's probable that there are aspects to the human condition that are not dreamt of in your philosophy....but it does raise this question: what does it profit two entp's to band together and argue the inarguable?

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