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    So what do you think is the root of racism

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    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    Wrong!! You'd see "Drnkng ountan"!
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    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    I think if you really look at the root of racism, you'll see that there's a lot more to it than a "feeling-based opinion."

    And as much as I enjoy belittling the logic of Fi-ers, it's kind of an oversimplification to imply that Fi and feeling-based opinions are equivalent.

    And trust me honey, you'll rarely see me using the word "benevolent" to describe Fi, even if Fi-motivated opinions aren't the cause of racism.
    Honey? Why so catty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by disregard View Post
    Honey? Why so catty?
    I wouldn't call that catty. Perhaps bee-ey (or even beary) is a more fitting term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by disregard View Post
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    How can one have any kind of motivation to do this or that without being a feeler?Where do you think Te get its criteria from, for example?


    Like Teslashock mentioned, feeling-based and Fi are not synonymous. But more importantly, logic (T) might be less biased than feeling, but it can still be tainted by faulty perception and be weak. Without aim, it doesn't even care about good or evil. So it is prone of acting in a less than admirable way too because of that.

    I think a common misconception is that feeling is any more powerful justifying actions, than Sensing, Intuition or Thinking are.


    Also, another misconception is that racism comes from some deep feeling. Some of the most cold and robotic bastards in the world are racist. Some of the most decent and law-abiding bastards...all kinds of bastards in fact. Some are indoctrinated, some thing they are morally correct, some don't care at all...etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    How can one have any kind of motivation to do this or that without being a feeler?
    Everyone uses feeling.

    Also, another misconception is that racism comes from some deep feeling. Some of the most cold and robotic bastards in the world are racist. Some of the most decent and law-abiding bastards...all kinds of bastards in fact. Some are indoctrinated, some thing they are morally correct, some don't care at all...etc
    Deep feeling (racial superiority) can be cold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Without Fi, this is what you would still see:

    from what i know of the attitude back then [which is admittedly little], this kind of thing was an Si complication. most naturally an S_J will feel unclean/unsafe in the presence of the unfamiliar. once 'we' acclimated ourselves this kind of thing disappeared. i don't think Fi was the demise of explicit racism - else it would never have amassed the popularity it did. the erosion of the foundation of fear instilled by the Si type's favorite pastime [mass hysteria] was what eventually allowed the levies break under the pressure of virtually every other function.

    not just Fi.

    but that's assuming i'm right about the psychological state of the U.S. during that time.
    we might all have just been fucking nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueSprout View Post
    Is there anyone that Fi doesn't drive crazy? I'm just curious at this point.
    I know, really...

    I don't have a problem with my cognitive functions, including Fi.
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    I don't know what's wrong with the quote button, so I have to do this manually, I guess.

    Heart wrote:

    It took people to stand up and say they weren't going to take it and other people to protect their right to do so, but you know, it wasn't exactly a MASS movement. It was a brave few who got things going.
    This I agree with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by disregard View Post
    Everyone uses feeling.
    Exactly my point.


    Quote Originally Posted by disregard View Post
    Deep feeling (racial superiority) can be cold.
    Racial superiority can be a feeling or a thought. As in, according to these criteria, whites are clearly superior. There are a lot of ways to "objectively" justify racism (and anything else really). Eugenics wasn't based on deep feeling necessarily - some people actually think they are doing the right thing, or the most sensible decision.

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