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    Te is the problem for me, it's the one that drives me nuts.

    "You're stupid"
    "You're not good enough"
    "There are things that you are doing wrong that you can't see and will never be able to see"

    and on and on and on.

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    The only reason why I started my Fi thread is because I want to understand it better. At least, that was before a bunch of people took it over, derailed it, and now I'm even more confused than before.


    (What a bunch of assholes).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    From my perspective, the "demon" created the system, and the "angel" ended it (same function, good and bad side of the same archetype).

    I've been thinking of this sort of thing recently, and I would think that the bad side of Fi in creating/maintaining racism came from "immature" Fi. Meaning, these were TJ types with Fi as tertiary or inferior. It was really supporting their Te agenda of domination, and the society that grew out of this is heavy Te, as many acknowledge. (Only now, it has substituted financial discrimination for racial, but that's a whole other discussion).

    The move to end racism would be the more mature "heroic" or "parental" Fi.
    Ok, so really racism sprang from a Te agenda of domination, an agenda that lacked a good sense of Fi. I don't think the Fi was "immature"; I think it was weak and the extent to which Fi pervaded the Te agenda was very, very limited. Racism persisted because the notion that blacks are inferior beings became ingrained in America's sociological essence, and to go against this would be going against the beliefs of society as a whole. Therefore, racism persisted because of Si/Fe, with some random Te thrown in there for kicks and giggles.

    It seems pretty far-fetched to say that Fi was the cause of racism. I think a more accurate claim would be that overbearing Te with not enough balance from Fi caused slavery, slavery lead to racism, and Si/Fe allowed racism to continue for generations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Linguist View Post
    The only reason why I started my Fi thread is because I want to understand it better. At least, that was before a bunch of people took it over, derailed it, and now I'm even more confused than before.
    I noticed... Mentioning Fi seems to have that effect. You know, like the sharks smelling a single drop of blood in the ocean...

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    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    The idea that white is the superior race and that other races ought to be oppressed came from Fi?
    Of course.

    It's an opinion that is based on feeling.

    It may be backed up by Thought.. but it is a value of White over All Else

    Whoever said Fi was benevolent?

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    Fi tends to burn like a roaring fire, and it takes some time to figure out how to channel it properly, is all. Worth it though, as is the madness....comes in handy sometimes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post

    I've been thinking of this sort of thing recently, and I would think that the bad side of Fi in creating/maintaining racism came from "immature" Fi. Meaning, these were TJ types with Fi as tertiary or inferior. It was really supporting their Te agenda of domination, and the society that grew out of this is heavy Te, as many acknowledge. (Only now, it has substituted financial discrimination for racial, but that's a whole other discussion).

    The move to end racism would be the more mature "heroic" or "parental" Fi.

    The discrimination I see right now is within the words of that post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by disregard View Post
    Of course.

    It's an opinion that is based on feeling.

    It may be backed up by Thought.. but it is a value of White over All Else
    You fail at typology. No offense.

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    Explain

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    Quote Originally Posted by disregard View Post
    Of course.

    It's an opinion that is based on feeling.

    It may be backed up by Thought.. but it is a value of White over All Else

    Whoever said Fi was benevolent?
    I think if you really look at the root of racism, you'll see that there's a lot more to it than a "feeling-based opinion."

    And as much as I enjoy belittling the logic of Fi-ers, it's kind of an oversimplification to imply that Fi and feeling-based opinions are equivalent.

    And trust me honey, you'll rarely see me using the word "benevolent" to describe Fi, even if Fi-motivated opinions aren't the cause of racism.

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