[INFJ] Working the INFJ Function Yo-Yo

[Skyward]

I have found in the last few weeks that it takes a certain kind of sociality to break from the 'Ni feedback loop.' This loop is close to a minor depression and closes me off from a lot; almost like my Fe function is chained down somewhere. It's basically a run-of-the-mill situation where the main function dominates the psyche so that no other function works.

At first I thought it was a normal thing - because I never really knew about how it felt to be out of the loop, I just always was in it. what bugs me about it, though, is the feeling that I'm losing a lot of chances because I am only vaguely connected with the real world. When something from outside finds its way it, it causes a chain reaction in my head that finds all the vague connections with what was said; it doesn't stay on topic, and it alienates people. Where Fe would reign it into the current social situation... There's none of that now. My mind is a pudding on the floor with no real structure to follow.*

The situation is worse when even being 'social' doesn't do anything, all that happens is that I'm an amoeba in the social circle and spit out random connections my Ni makes from the conversation - or out of it. The non sequiturs get very outlandish.

I'm sorry that I don't have any solid examples, but in my current mental state, I do not have any real rote memory of even the things that happened even an hour ago that got me on this train of thought.

Does any other INFJ go through this as often as I do? Is it just a normal introvert reaction to fall off the face of the earth for a while to let the dominant function run its course? Do any other typed-people have an example of this in their own type?

The situation is both fascinating in the information I can get, and annoying because of how socially crippling it is. I think I'll post this in one of the more open MBTI sections, too.

*Offtopic: This is a difference between Ti and Ni: Ni has no real solid structure. Ti does.

 

[Tycho]

It sounds very familiar. When Ni takes control of everything, I enter a phase that can last up to a couple of months, in which I alienate completely from my surroundings. In those periods I'm not social at all, I'm not outgoing and I don't study very well.

I'm in a constant state of "epiphany", always thinking that I'm becoming aware of something really important. But if you'd ask me what it is, I'd have a hard time to explain it; because Ni is not about having concrete thoughts, but a way of perceiving the world.

I do appreciate it, because it ultimately makes my inner world more rich. But I'm worried what will happen if I enter such a period when I'll have a family and a job to take care of..

 

[Skyward]

It sounds very familiar. When Ni takes control of everything, I enter a phase that can last up to a couple of months, in which I alienate completely from my surroundings. In those periods I'm not social at all, I'm not outgoing and I don't study very well.

I'm in a constant state of "epiphany", always thinking that I'm becoming aware of something really important. But if you'd ask me what it is, I'd have a hard time to explain it; because Ni is not about having concrete thoughts, but a way of perceiving the world.

I do appreciate it, because it ultimately makes my inner world more rich. But I'm worried what will happen if I enter such a period when I'll have a family and a job to take care of..

Yeah, that's the thought I'm having now. I guess the trick would be to find a way to compensate for it or a way to pull out of it.

One thing I have been thinking is that these phases are when the mind takes time to cultivate the new input I have been shoving into it. Or it could be the inverse; my mind wants to add new things to it and make new connections before it moves forward in reality.

Do ENFJs experience this in a way? Do xNTJs?

 

[Lux]

This sounds familiar. I'm actually sort of going through this now, hehe. When this happens to me and I find I cannot really be around people. So I remove myself as much as I can. I do what I have to do regarding society, but not much, if anything else. I do have a family and they help to bring more out of me. When people are counting on me I cannot solely live in my head. It has gotten better as I have gotten older, it still happens when I get down but it's not as intense and lasting. Whether that is because of my family, or just growth in general, I cannot be sure.

 

[Skyward]

This sounds familiar. I'm actually sort of going through this now, hehe. When this happens to me and I find I cannot really be around people. So I remove myself as much as I can. I do what I have to do regarding society, but not much, if anything else. I do have a family and they help to bring more out of me. When people are counting on me I cannot solely live in my head. It has gotten better as I have gotten older, it still happens when I get down but it's not as intense and lasting. Whether that is because of my family, or just growth in general, I cannot be sure.

It seems like an involuntary turn in thought-pattern. It's frustrating when I can watch it change but only wonder how I can turn it back. On the flipside, my curiosity is boosted and my mind finds interesting connections. Maybe not pragmatic ones, but interesting ones.

If I can find an effective way to turn on/off this mindset, it could be a useful way of increasing understanding without losing focus on things.

 

[Tycho]

Having this kind of 'mystic fantasies' may be the only thing I'm sincerely passionate about; that explains how I can get so absorbed in it. Jung talked about Ni-dominants as people that are "chasing after fruitless fantasies" until they start to form a judgement; once they start seeing the bigger picture, the mystic side, the potential beauty of things, they can derive a sense of duty from it; thereby making their vision an ethical problem.

I feel like I'm about to leave such a Ni-dominated period for now (that lasted over 3 months and was triggered by following an intensive master class with an INFJ writer) and I start to have an active desire to contribute things to the world and be a part of it; actually, stronger than ever before, as I'm more aware of what my role in the world can be.

Do you know about Jane Loevinger's scale of ego-development? It recently caught my attention. She talks about developing from a self-centered person into a comformist, then as we become more aware, into individualists; as we become again more aware, we begin to tolerate more ambiguity, and ultimately, we should be able to integrate our vision and the different roles we want to have in our lifes. Once I achieved this, I think I'll be a more stable person.

The relation that I have to the world, right now, and the activities that I do just to give my life some form, don't really mean anything for me; but I foresee this can change.

My true passion will become to channel people's energy into a certain way of perceiving the world that will make them happier and more aligned with themselves. If I can advise you anything, that would also be an advise to myself: it's not bad to hold a connection with the world, if you know that it's only for the form of it; go out, do things, don't forget your need for thrills.

 

[Skyward]

My true passion will become to channel people's energy into a certain way of perceiving the world that will make them happier and more aligned with themselves. If I can advise you anything, that would also be an advise to myself: it's not bad to hold a connection with the world, if you know that it's only for the form of it; go out, do things, don't forget your need for thrills.

Currently with SJ hostparents, I wont be able to forget. It just makes this Ni-consciousness feel like a guilty pleasure that I should hide under the mattress . It wouldn't be so tough if I could put it into words they would understand.

Let's see how far the rabbit hole goes.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

This is from Lenore Thompson’s book, from the INJ description. It’s long- the parts I thought were relevant are bolded- I kind of had to post all of it to put the bolded statements in context.

Developing Extraverted Judgment

When INJs are defending themselves against unconscious Sensate motives, they start out by resisting others’ conceptual boundaries. Gradually, however, their inferior Extraversion becomes apparent. The more their behaviors are colored by unconscious Sensate aims, the more they’re aware of themselves as different from others. Such types want people to see them as special, but they often feel insecure and unappreciated.

Their unconscious Sensate impulses fill them with a yearning for credit and recognition, but they may be increasingly critical of their opportunities to make a contribution or [*4*] so dissatisfied with their efforts that they don’t share them with others. This is generally the point at which the type’s tertiary function, Introverted Thinking or Introverted Feeling, steps in.

As discussed in other chapters, our tertiary function is helpful and enriching when our secondary function is well developed. It provides an outlet for the ‘other side’ of our personality. For example, it prompts INJs to recognize that truth can be appropriated experientially as well as conceptually as a way of being, one that they feel in their senses and their bones.

As a last-ditch defense against unconscious Sensate impulses, however, [*1*] Introverted Judgment simply convinces INJs that they have no need to establish an investment in their outer situation. The real truth is the complicated inner stuff that can’t be put into words because it’s connected to everything else that matters to them.

The more INJs try to protect their inner world, the more they lose the Intuitive perspective they’re trying to maintain. They lose their capacity to shift perspectives. They have the sense that the truth is a core experience, archetypal, impossible to express in a way that captures its full significance. Their vision becomes a psychological castle and they stand in the highest parapet, warning people that they aren’t worthy to come in.

It should be emphasized that INJs who feel like this aren’t hiding from the outer world. If anything, unconscious Sensate impulses are generating undue interest in how they look to others. The problem is the type’s inability to deliver what’s gestating inside. It’s too large, too unformed; it won’t survive in the world if it’s cut off from the INJ’s Intuitive nourishment. The only way they know how to witness to it is to point out the poverty of others’ positions, showing how they fall short of understanding. Such types may become so adept at this that people see them as oracles and prophets. But they don’t really have a positive vision of their own.

When INJs develop Extraverted Judgment and train it on themselves, [*5*] they begin to see life differently. They recognize their need to be understood, to make genuine connection with others, to be a contributing part of something outside themselves. This recognition short circuits the INJ’s focus on conceptual boundaries. Such types try to reach people instead, to formulate their ideas in light of what others believe and think and cherish. In the process, they find a way to bring their insights into the larger community.

INJs don’t find it easy to make this effort. But developing secondary skills is always difficult; it forces compromises we don’t want to make. For INTJs, saying things in a way that people can support and accept feels like selling out or watering down something important. [*2*] For INFJs, it feels like being inauthentic and hypocritical. Extreme types may even believe they still need to figure out who they are and shouldn’t be influenced by others’ expectations.

The irony is that INJs figure out who they are by way of Extraverted Judgment. [*3*] It’s the attempt to give their insights outward form that ultimately shapes their social identity. Unless INJs find a way to honor their Intuitions in the public arena, they won’t recognize themselves in the feedback they get from others. Even if they’ve been highly successful in their outward pursuits or spent many happy hours in solitary pastimes, they’re likely to feel unfulfilled.

So anyway, Skyward, I think that Ni feels like a pile of runny pudding (Thompson says ‘unformed’) when it’s starving for outside information. I think what Thompson is explaining here is that we (INJs) get so used to turning inward for ‘new’ information- because using innie judgment on innie perception feels like the truest, most authentic means of processing information- that we forget the importance of occasionally importing outside information relating to the outside world. (edit: ) And by 'importing outside information', because it's Fe, I guess that means incorporating some social expectations into my own judgment. I think(?)

[*1*] We (or at least it’s true for me) get addicted to the authenticity of it, and build up reservations about importing outside information that might corrupt everything we put so much thought into building. Ni starts to feel like runny pudding because we’ve depleted its resources. It’s starving for outside information. Ti/Fi has been giving it the same ol’ same old, and it’s starving for some new ingredients to throw in the pot.

[*2*] It’s like Ti/Fi is arguing Ni doesn’t need external ingredients to create ‘new’ information, it just needs to figure out the perfect combination of existing ingredients- and what’s more, Ti/Fi is afraid that Fe is gonna throw something in to sour the whole batch. [*3*] But actually, Ti/Fi is only able to create ‘new’ information of its own by allowing Extraverted Judgment to contribute.

The situation is worse when even being 'social' doesn't do anything, all that happens is that I'm an amoeba in the social circle and spit out random connections my Ni makes from the conversation - or out of it. The non sequiturs get very outlandish.

I’m just gonna throw this out there: maybe it doesn’t feel like it’s helping because [*4*] it feels like Fe is broken or something. I suggest this because I think I can relate to your statement, and I sometimes leave social situations myself feeling like I hadn’t communicated a shred of the meaning I’d intended to express, like every word fell on deaf ears. If communication doesn’t actually connect me somehow to other people, it feels like my Fe is broken. And I totally see myself having the reaction Thompson describes sometimes [*4*] - I get so frustrated that I end up telling myself I don’t need Fe to work anyway- ignoring the unconscious Sensate impulses, for which they invariably come back and bite me in the ass (I call this the Se bitch-slap).

This way of looking at developing Fe helped me (a thread about “cultivating shallowness”). It may feel heinous, because of [*2*], but the heinous feeling subsides because [*5*] sooner or later it *does* somehow bring in more outside information for Ni/Ti/Fi to gobble up (congealing the runny pudding consistency).

The situation is both fascinating in the information I can get, and annoying because of how socially crippling it is.

Yeah. I mean it is, of course, also completely possible that I’ve entirely missed the mark here (which would be an example of *me* throwing out a non sequitur, another day in the life of Z). But I *think* I understood your op. If not: sorry for this ridiculously, ridiculously long post.

 

[Skyward]

Yeah. I mean it is, of course, also completely possible that I’ve entirely missed the mark here (which would be an example of *me* throwing out a non sequitur, another day in the life of Z). But I *think* I understood your op. If not: sorry for this ridiculously, ridiculously long post.

The positive I said was based on that when Ni and Ti work together, things I already know connect together in a feverish rush of ideas. Similar to a Foamy the Squirrel rant or Ask a Ninja episode in speed. This usually occurs when I'm writing. Maybe it is a 'ghetto' use of Fe to focus Ni?

I found the post useful, don't worry.

It seems that also an INJ is so worried about truth and the overall encompassing truth of some subject that they ignore the simple real things in life. When they lose this, they lose a connection with people. In order to learn this connection is to interact with people and have it become part of a natural action. If the natural 'groove' is lost, we use Ni to come up with something we think of as the truth to react to that situation, which might be wrong because we've lost the focus on the reality of thing. Like, you want to show a person that you care, Fe would say just be nice and smile, use soft words and help them when they're stuck. Ni would maybe dismiss this as shallow (especially if we do not like the person) and decide to use subtle approaches that the person doesn't notice. Ni knows it is being nice without having to deal with the person directly, but Fe knows its being nice and the person KNOWS you're being nice.

I GET it now!

Though the post was useful because it put into better language things that I have been noticing. I felt much more myself for a while after a period of time where I was forced to be social almost constantly. The 'well put together' feeling disappeared after a few days of barely any social activity.

So it could just be that Fe naturally develops when I'm forced in a long (multiple days) situation of social activity. I backslide when I'm alone for too long for more than one day in a row. I need me another good long party.

 

[a24kar]

I can for sure tell you that ENFJ's will normally not have this kind of purpose or meaning seeking thought pattern that us INFJ's tend to naturally do all of the time. ENFJ's, from my very close relations with a few of them, tend to rely a lot on their Fe function in their lives. They do not get hung up on tangential symbolic meanings like we do.

In my experiences the ENFJ has difficulties even imagining this type of thought process for longer than about 4 seconds.

 

[a24kar]

I star to become very alienated from reality as well if I have no social contact for a day or so. This rarely happens to me now, however, when it has happened in the past I have felt like my mind was almost floating away into a dream. I could be making myself lunch and be thinking about the most abstract, day-dreamy, symbolical ideas. I think, perhaps, for INFJ's although we enjoy/need time and space... we also need some proximity to other human life to keep us tethered to this planet.

 

[Skyward]

I star to become very alienated from reality as well if I have no social contact for a day or so. This rarely happens to me now, however, when it has happened in the past I have felt like my mind was almost floating away into a dream. I could be making myself lunch and be thinking about the most abstract, day-dreamy, symbolical ideas. I think, perhaps, for INFJ's although we enjoy/need time and space... we also need some proximity to other human life to keep us tethered to this planet.

Yeah, I think also when we are in a dynamic social area, like a party or club, or with a lot of friends at once, we are forced to use both Fe and Se a LOT. Se, from what I see in myself, is used in INFJs to just 'let loose' and react to things. It's like pinball and I find it annoying that my Se function is used more than my Fe function. Or at least, I don't know when I am using Fe if at all.

I find, too, that I can feel very alone, even among friends or caring family. Anyone have an idea why that is?

 

[Z Buck McFate]

I find, too, that I can feel very alone, even among friends or caring family. Anyone have an idea why that is?

Don't know if it's for the same reason, but I get this way too. This is the best I've been able to articulate why I think it happens:

I think people are a lot like mirrors for each other. We look into an actual mirror to assess our physical appearance, but look at other people to assess our... personality (for lack of better word. maybe soul? dunno). When we make a joke and other people laugh, it's like a reflection that lets us know we are funny.


INFJs feel such a plagueing need to feel understood. When people don't 'get' us, when they don't understand the meaning we are trying to convey- it's like there's no 'mirror' there, no reflection of ourselves in the other person- making us feel alone in their presence.

(edit: ) When the reflection we see (of ourselves) in another person makes sense to us, we feel connected to them. When that reflection doesn't make sense to us, we don't feel connected. And I think INFJs are prone to noticing when a reflection indicates the other person doesn't fully understand what we have tried to communicate.


This is just a theory I have about it. I hope it makes sense, I don't have time right now to figure out how to say in a clearer way. But feeling 'alone' around people who I believe care about me has long been a problem of mine as well.

 

[Skyward]

Don't know if it's for the same reason, but I get this way too. This is the best I've been able to articulate why I think it happens:

I think people are a lot like mirrors for each other. We look into an actual mirror to assess our physical appearance, but look at other people to assess our... personality (for lack of better word. maybe soul? dunno). When we make a joke and other people laugh, it's like a reflection that lets us know we are funny.


INFJs feel such a plagueing need to feel understood. When people don't 'get' us, when they don't understand the meaning we are trying to convey- it's like there's no 'mirror' there, no reflection of ourselves in the other person- making us feel alone in their presence.

(edit: ) When the reflection we see (of ourselves) in another person makes sense to us, we feel connected to them. When that reflection doesn't make sense to us, we don't feel connected. And I think INFJs are prone to noticing when a reflection indicates the other person doesn't fully understand what we have tried to communicate.


This is just a theory I have about it. I hope it makes sense, I don't have time right now to figure out how to say in a clearer way. But feeling 'alone' around people who I believe care about me has long been a problem of mine as well.

That does make sense (and makes me wonder how Fi works in that theory), and the sensitivity to the mirror makes us more prone to just 'fall off the face of the earth' to some people, or drop relationships.

One thing I found out about changing my mood, maybe it's related to an inferior Se, is that I tend to get out of a depression if I just turn into a caffeinated clown for a while... granted it only works if at least a couple people are amused by it. Anyone else who gives me odd looks just amuse ME then. Maybe that's what they mean about giving your inferior function what it wants so everything else can work correctly.

I'm just glad I found something in my personality that's useful

 

[Tycho]

INFJs feel such a plagueing need to feel understood. When people don't 'get' us, when they don't understand the meaning we are trying to convey- it's like there's no 'mirror' there, no reflection of ourselves in the other person- making us feel alone in their presence.

I like your theory. I've heard non-INFJ's (even sensors) talk that way too - that they feel lonely, even when surrounded by tons of friends.

I think we can not really love ourselves. We can love things that we do, that we feel, that we think, but that's not what we are.

If we really focus our minds completely on ourselves, we feel nothing at all; do we? However, if I focus my mind completely on anyone else, I can have a wealth of feelings.

So what I feel for myself, is kind of like a vacuum, that others need to fill - with love, or with even more emptiness..

 

[Skyward]

I like your theory. I've heard non-INFJ's (even sensors) talk that way too - that they feel lonely, even when surrounded by tons of friends.

I think we can not really love ourselves. We can love things that we do, that we feel, that we think, but that's not what we are.

If we really focus our minds completely on ourselves, we feel nothing at all; do we? However, if I focus my mind completely on anyone else, I can have a wealth of feelings.

So what I feel for myself, is kind of like a vacuum, that others need to fill - with love, or with even more emptiness..

People look toward riches and fame because then there will be a lot of SOMETHING to fill the gap, but then you're only looking at yourself and not with the mirror. Maybe this means we need something to look forward to in order to live life, and people to look forward to us. When you become a celebrity, you lose that ability in most places because once youre under the limelight, people are just looking at you under a microscope. I think celebrities are in the best position to value a real friend because of how hostile the rest of humanity is to them.

Without a goal, a person loses self worth. The goal could be simple, like 'play baseball as much as possible and get really really good at it' but it is still something to focus the mind. The goal could be to not have a goal, but wouldn't that have a deeper feeling inside of it?

I think with the written word, so I hope this whole thing makes sense since my thoughts are pretty jumbled.

Theosophical Tangent: I tend to think in terms of 'God created us in his likeness.' how far does that go? Does human greed count? Maybe with his understanding, he understands this Mirror and how necessary it is. Maybe that is why there is suffering in the world because he wants something to constantly fix. If there wasn't something to fix he wouldn't 'feel' anything. This is a very interesting idea to me because then it is a way to support Intelligent Design. He does it the long way because it means more to him as a Supreme Being? Either way, how are we to know what his deep goal is? Maybe it is within ourselves?

 

[Z Buck McFate]

the sensitivity to the mirror makes us more prone to just 'fall off the face of the earth' to some people, or drop relationships.

Yeah, we can often seem like effective 'mirrors' for people who don't seem to us like effective 'mirrors' for us. In other words- I think people often feel a sense of connection with us that can elude us (we don't feel that same connection); so I guess connections can be severed because we didn't realize there was a 'connection' for them in the first place. Is that what you meant?

That does make sense (and makes me wonder how Fi works in that theory)

I don't know about Fi specifically, but I think over-introverting ourselves can result in us *thinking* the other person can't be an effective mirror (i.e. thinking there's no way to connect) or that mirrors aren't important; when the truth of it is that we aren't willing to compromise the meaning we want to share for the sake of connecting with someone. But then- like Thompson said- (*3* on previous page, in my own words here) those 'reflections' from other people are how we actually know who we are.

 

[Skyward]

Yeah, we can often seem like effective 'mirrors' for people who don't seem to us like effective 'mirrors' for us. In other words- I think people often feel a sense of connection with us that can elude us (we don't feel that same connection); so I guess connections can be severed because we didn't realize there was a 'connection' for them in the first place. Is that what you meant?

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I don't know about Fi specifically, but I think over-introverting ourselves can result in us *thinking* the other person can't be an effective mirror (i.e. thinking there's no way to connect) or that mirrors aren't important; when the truth of it is that we aren't willing to compromise the meaning we want to share for the sake of connecting with someone. But then- like Thompson said- (*3* on previous page, in my own words here) those 'reflections' from other people are how we actually know who we are.

Yeah, that's right. The hardest part, though, is that sometimes it feels like we can't help but BE over-introverted until something happens that knocks us out of neutral and into drive. It happens mostly without us trying, so it takes work to stay 'in gear.' Once I get into gear, I can sense when I'm falling back and can try and stay away from it, if I'm already in neutral, it's a depressed 'I can't do anything about it' feeling that is only true because of the depressed mood.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

I think we can not really love ourselves. We can love things that we do, that we feel, that we think, but that's not what we are.

If we really focus our minds completely on ourselves, we feel nothing at all; do we? However, if I focus my mind completely on anyone else, I can have a wealth of feelings.

So what I feel for myself, is kind of like a vacuum, that others need to fill - with love, or with even more emptiness..

We don’t get to reap the emotional benefits of even the most profound theories or ideas if we can’t find anyone to understand them. We need to see it reflected in another person before we can actually cash in emotionally on the rewards because the unconscious Se impulses (as Thompson puts it) are always lurking- in every shadow and behind every corner- reminding us that it’s only true in our own head.

It’s kind of like the difference between eating dinner vs. eating a picture of dinner. Forming a picture of dinner- on our own- can be useful towards the end of creating a completely amazing dinner: but it will never be useful if it stays in picture form. We need to change it into an actual dinner- by sharing it with a person in the external world- in order to get any actual nourishment from it.

Of course, sometimes it is emotionally gratifying to indulge in theory- even if we don't share it- but there is a threshold. If we do too much of it, it just starts feeling empty.

The hardest part, though, is that sometimes it feels like we can't help but BE over-introverted until something happens that knocks us out of neutral and into drive. It happens mostly without us trying, so it takes work to stay 'in gear.' Once I get into gear, I can sense when I'm falling back and can try and stay away from it, if I'm already in neutral, it's a depressed 'I can't do anything about it' feeling that is only true because of the depressed mood.

That over-introverted ‘neutral’ position sneaks up on me, too. I just instinctively gravitate towards introverted judgment. I’m not sure that’s really such a bad thing, though. I don’t think it’s possible to stay in gear all the time; at least, I know it isn’t possible for me. I think the key is to remember this: try changing the “depressed ‘I can’t do anything about it’ feeling” reaction to the reluctant ‘Oh crap, time to extravert’ reaction. It’s not like the latter is an appealing realization (“cultivating shallowness”), but it feels a lot better than the disempowering ‘I can’t do anything about it’ alternative. Floating in neutral isn’t that bad when you remember you can get out when you want to. And it’s just a safer bet, I think, to work on an escape ladder out of that seemingly bottomless Ni pit than it is to try to remember not to fall in it in the first place.

There’s a lot of truth in the phrase ‘loneliness is not being able to be alone’, but it ought to come with the disclaimer that it can be taken too far when we idealize it. I think movies and literature sort of glorify the ‘independent thinker’ character- the one who can come up with an immaculate independent moral compass without needing anyone’s support or approval- and it’s somewhat unrealistic because there’s no accounting for that Se bitch-slap. Those unconscious Se impulses will surface and bite anyone (or maybe just Ni doms? dunno) in the ass for trying to reach that ideal.

Be glad you’re figuring it out now. I spent the bulk of my early twenties thinking it was a weakness to need other people to understand me: mistake. And so far, I’ve spent my thirties unraveling that myth and trying to find a balance. It would have been nice if I’d found introvert/extrovert information sooner.

 

[jtanSis1]

Ah, that deep feeling Fi feeling, how it makes us wonder what we feel and how we feel, but never seems to lead anywhere. Yet, oddly and curiously enough, it all leads to the same conclusions and answers. The worst part is that even if someone gave us these answers, we would not learn them because we did not find out for ourselves. Real life answers are not so simple because you need the whole construct and pattern of thought to reach the conclusion so that it makes sense. Talk about frustrating.