User Tag List

First 12345 Last

Results 21 to 30 of 58

  1. #21
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    537

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    Most vegetarians and animal rights/environmental activists I've known are SP, and many people note that ISFPs often have a special connection to nature (being so sensory oriented).
    Hmm, eating plants instead of animals is having a special connection to nature? Or is having a special connection to nature something else?

    I look at myself as part of nature, no better or worse, and for sure not a divine being. I'd say my connection is just what it is, no more or less, unless my perception is tricking me. I take this into account, usually.

  2. #22
    veteran attention whore Jeffster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    MBTI
    ESFP
    Enneagram
    7w6 sx
    Socionics
    SEE Fi
    Posts
    6,727

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Biaxident View Post
    The perfect day for Jeffster.

    Also, some INFPs struggle with reading comprehension.
    Jeffster Illustrates the Artisan Temperament <---- click here

    "I like the sigs with quotes in them from other forum members." -- Oberon

    The SP Spazz Youtube Channel

  3. #23
    Charting a course
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    MBTI
    INFP
    Posts
    3,638

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    Also, some INFPs struggle with reading comprehension.
    You're just jealous that I found it first.

  4. #24
    Sugar Hiccup OrangeAppled's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    MBTI
    INFP
    Enneagram
    4w5 sp/sx
    Socionics
    IEI Ni
    Posts
    7,661

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by sleepy View Post
    Hmm, eating plants instead of animals is having a special connection to nature? Or is having a special connection to nature something else?

    I look at myself as part of nature, no better or worse, and for sure not a divine being. I'd say my connection is just what it is, no more or less, unless my perception is tricking me. I take this into account, usually.
    Um no....having a special connection to nature may lead someone to adopt causes related to the treatment of animals, the environment, etc. Those were just examples to illustrate a point.

    The main point was not that ISFPs are nature lovers (I'm sure a lot are not, just as not all INFPs are writers), but that they too may take up a cause. I imagine many may not think of it in terms like "causes" and "values" because those can be rather conceptual terms, but I notice they often quietly stand and work for something just as much as any INFP does.

    Sometimes talking to sensors is
    Often a star was waiting for you to notice it. A wave rolled toward you out of the distant past, or as you walked under an open window, a violin yielded itself to your hearing. All this was mission. But could you accomplish it? (Rilke)

    INFP | 4w5 sp/sx | RLUEI - Primary Inquisitive | Tritype is tripe

  5. #25
    Twerking & Lurking ayoitsStepho's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    MBTI
    ISFP
    Enneagram
    4w3 so/sx
    Posts
    4,836

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    Sometimes talking to sensors is
    Lol, that's exactly how I feel towards intuitives sometimes.
    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    ayoitsStepho is becoming someone else. Actually her true self, a rite of passage.

  6. #26

    Default

    I think this post by Orange sums up some of the core differences very well.


    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    Well, obviously one is expressed through Se and one through Ne. And now I am going to ramble aimlessly...

    I think Se is more focused on the immediate moment, using the 5 senses to channel their imagination into tangible expressions. Even in their altruistic endeavors they seem more hands-on and take-action, with a view to immediate results. They seem to relate their feelings more directly to experience which makes them less... "romantic" shall we say; but there's also less extrapolation to understand foreign feelings. Probably why they don't get the "healer" stereotype INFPs get.

    In some ways, I think their Fi may be more difficult to express, because Fi is rather abstract in itself, but Se isn't, and the ISFP has to reconcile the two. The INFP has an abstract outlet to use. I think this encourages a kind of innovation in ISFPs that often leads to so many of them being original & creative artists. I also know ISFPs with "causes" like an NF, but the approach is very different - it's kind of on ground level, content to start small and work up, because Se connects to reality better. However, the ideas can be pretty noble, from my perspective. The whole "DIY" attitude has always seemed very SP to me, but maybe it's the ones I've known.

    Ne is more future-oriented, and sees patterns, and forms theories/concepts/ideas with fuel from Fi (or vice verse). So INFPs tend to seek more quixotic means of expression, be it through their moral causes or creating stories to express their ideas through illustration, or maybe creating literal illustrations . Because the INFP does extrapolate their feelings and apply it metaphorically, it gives the feelings a universal application in the form of ideals. Theory can be trusted over experience because of this, because experience is too limited for the INFP, and it always falls short of this vision of perfection. That's where the idealistic mindset comes in.

    INFPs are less action-oriented, but may take action after their ideas have incubated for awhile; and they're more likely to accomplish their objective by simply communicating their ideas, because the idea is an end unto itself. The long term view makes the INFP feel that expression is enough, and again, localized action can feel limiting to someone who is dreaming in such large format. We still deal best in the background, one-on-one, because we are individual-oriented and reaching people as individuals makes sense to us, as opposed to Fe which seems to be more skilled at influencing a group (and I mean that positively, okay Fe people?).

    I also made some comments in a past thread about the differences between an INFP and an ISFP visual artist. Generally, INFPs may tend to be more conceptual & spend more time theorizing how they'll do it than simply doing it. ISFPs sometimes seem to let the expression reveal itself, by becoming absorbed in the physical creative process. That's my shaky theory, and no one really denied it at the time . I think there is a not a clear line, because I actually do both, but a tendency can say a lot.

  7. #27
    Member Manimal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    MBTI
    INFP
    Posts
    60

    Default

    sounds to me like isfp's spend allot of time just enjoying the moment without being consumed with the things that dont matter like say estp's do (my subjective opinion obviously), this is something i wish i could do!

  8. #28
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    246

    Default

    biggest difference is INFPs actually do enjoy delving deeply into abstract topics (death, love, sexuality, psychology) & will enjoy discussing these types of things with a close friend . . . an ISFP will for a few minutes . . . and then will try to change the conversation to a "hey did you hear about X band or X movie?" . . . ISFPs have a much lower tolerance / interest in going deep deep deep deep . . . and INFPs love the deep deep deep deep . . . that's my $4.09
    Last edited by revolve; 01-31-2010 at 12:42 PM. Reason: wanna add more

  9. #29
    Senior Member INTPness's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    MBTI
    INTP
    Enneagram
    5w4
    Posts
    2,158

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by revolve View Post
    ISFPs have a much lower tolerance / interest in going deep deep deep deep . . . and INFPs love the deep deep deep deep
    Yep. This has been my experience with the 2 types.

    that's my $4.09
    These things usually only cost $0.02. Would you like your $4.07 change back?

  10. #30
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    246

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    Yep. This has been my experience with the 2 types.



    These things usually only cost $0.02. Would you like your $4.07 change back?
    . . . oh snap! just wanted to see if anyone would notice . . . HA!

Similar Threads

  1. [MBTItm] Are INFPs (and ISFPs) better bullsh*t detectors than the other types?
    By asynartetic in forum The NF Idyllic (ENFP, INFP, ENFJ, INFJ)
    Replies: 31
    Last Post: 09-04-2013, 07:58 PM
  2. ISTP and ISFP. The Differences.
    By Illmatic in forum Myers-Briggs and Jungian Cognitive Functions
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 01-06-2012, 06:21 AM
  3. [MBTItm] Difference Between INFPs and ISFPs
    By Noon in forum The NF Idyllic (ENFP, INFP, ENFJ, INFJ)
    Replies: 37
    Last Post: 09-29-2010, 06:46 AM
  4. Replies: 15
    Last Post: 05-07-2009, 09:55 AM
  5. What are the biggest differences between ISFJ and ISFP
    By Requeim in forum What's my Type?
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: 05-01-2009, 08:33 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO