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    Thanks guys, this is very helpful
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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    Of course I am sure you meant to say the whole Fi/Ti thing?
    LOL. Yes, I'm sure Ti probably poses some challenges to the INFP. I haven't read too much on these forums as to what those challenges are. I know much more about the challenges that Fi poses to me - namely, I can't get them to open up and share their feelings freely, openly, and honestly. As I've read many INTP's say, it's like pulling teeth. And if you can't talk about those things, then you don't know where you stand with that person.

    INTP: You don't seem yourself lately. Is something wrong?
    INFP:

    INTP: There's obviously something wrong. Let's talk about it so I can help you feel better.
    INFP:

    I just never know where to go from there. If we can't talk openly, what am I supposed to do? What's the next step? It's like a big pink elephant in the room, but instead of opening the door and letting the elephant out, or engaging the elephant in conversation or feeding it a peanut or going for an elephant ride (or something!), it just stays right there and causes awkwardness.

    INFP's are one of my favorite types ever . I just have no idea how to handle these situations with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    LOL. Yes, I'm sure Ti probably poses some challenges to the INFP. I haven't read too much on these forums as to what those challenges are. I know much more about the challenges that Fi poses to me - namely, I can't get them to open up and share their feelings freely, openly, and honestly. As I've read many INTP's say, it's like pulling teeth. And if you can't talk about those things, then you don't know where you stand with that person.

    INTP: You don't seem yourself lately. Is something wrong?
    INFP:

    INTP: There's obviously something wrong. Let's talk about it so I can help you feel better.
    INFP:

    I just never where to go from there. If we can't talk openly, what am I supposed to do? What's the next step? It's like a big pink elephant in the room, but instead of opening the door and letting the elephant out, or engaging the elephant in conversation or feeding it or going for an elephant ride (or something!), it just stays right there and causes awkwardness.

    INFP's are one of my favorite types ever . I just have no idea how to handle these situations with them.
    That sounds just like me and my best friend XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kastor View Post
    That sounds just like me and my best friend XD
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    A Sensor was telling me that it is illegal to make a jump shot in pool by sliding under the cue ball.

    I say: "Is it because it will damage the felt?"

    He says: "No. You can't do that. Its illegal."

    Lost the signal there.

    I guess INFPs naturally look for meanings, and ISFPs are more like: its the way it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgman View Post
    A Sensor was telling me that it is illegal to make a jump shot in pool by sliding under the cue ball.

    I say: "Is it because it will damage the felt?"

    He says: "No. You can't do that. Its illegal."

    Lost the signal there.

    I guess INFPs naturally look for meanings, and ISFPs are more like: its the way it is.
    LOL. The ISFP's I've known liked to "break the rules" a bit. That response sounds like something an ISTJ/ESTJ (or SJ in general) would say. Did you do a jump shot on your very next shot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post

    IME, ISFP's love to "get into things" - they love to use their hands, touch things, feel things (i.e., textures), taste things, etc. Examples would be sculpting clay, painting with their hands, making all kinds of things, very much enjoy physical affection and the way that it feels (not so much the way it feels on the inside, but how it feels to their touch, to their skin, etc (i.e., cuddling is one example). It's almost like their body and all it's parts (eyes, mouth, hands, etc.) are their tool to experience the wonders of life. If they aren't touching, tasting, seeing, and having fun, they aren't really enjoying life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    My impression is that ISFP tend to not want to think that much about evil. Whenever I have contact with ISFPs I am always aware of the need to back off my more cynical views. It is not that the ISFP are in mental candyland or anything, it is just that deep discussions of the topic seem to be uncomfortable to them and that they don't see the point in focusing on something so unpleasant. At least this is how it seems to me.
    I think this is very true, at least for me. Good INFP friend likes movies like "The Dark Knight" and "Final Destination" and "Knowing." Meanwhile, I like happy, fun stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Most of the ISFPs I talk to miss all the nuance, context, and inferences of my comments, and remain unaware of the subtexts that ride underneath their own. We're good "playmates" and have fun with each other... but lots of times the connection time leaves a lot to be desired.
    Well, what you don't understand is, the "Fi/Se" combination creates a temporal paradox that would cause the universe to collapse on itself if we engaged in any of that nuance and subtext stuff. It's a tough burden we bear, but somehow we press on.
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    It's temperament mostly. 4temperaments.com -- Understanding Temperament Theory Also Se vs Ne, Ni vs Si etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
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    I think this is very true, at least for me. Good INFP friend likes movies like "The Dark Knight" and "Final Destination" and "Knowing." Meanwhile, I like happy, fun stuff.



    Well, what you don't understand is, the "Fi/Se" combination creates a temporal paradox that would cause the universe to collapse on itself if we engaged in any of that nuance and subtext stuff. It's a tough burden we bear, but somehow we press on.
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    My step-dad is an ISFP, and we are a lot of like in some ways, but in ways we sense and grasp that other people don't observe. However, on the surface, I am more likely to be confused with an INTP by other people. My communication style is more insync with an INTP (Ne), but my core feeling seems to be more insync with ISFPs I know (Fi).

    Comparing myself with my step-dad has highlighted the differences between the IxFPs though, so I'll point some of those further down.

    Other differences that have been mentioned, but I'll give my take on it:

    ISFP - focused on the moment, often base their opinions on personal experience & may distrust theory, enjoy more hands-on activities for the sake of the activity itself (as they enjoy the process), often less verbal and articulate in writing, may seem more hedonistic, not idealistic, but more accepting of what is current reality (even if it frustrates them - hence the escapism through physical sensation), but may have "causes" that are more "close to home" and take a more practical, immediate approach to supporting them, often feel it's "good enough for now" as they are more aware of current, realistic standards. Se is impulsive and is more spontaneous with physical movement.

    INFP - enjoy theory & the hypothetical & may even trust that over experience (as experience is always limited & narrow), future-focused with larger/universal ideals, may enjoy hands on activities but usually have an end goal in mind (more results oriented), impatient with details but can get obsessed with them if it's something they care about (don't confuse obsession with details to being naturally observant of them), perfectionist tendencies. Ne has whims and is more spontaneous with ideas (which may lead to action).


    So it kind of annoys me when people act like every person who has picked up a paint brush and who has talent in the visual arts is an ISFP. My step-dad and myself are both visual artists, and while he probably draws better because he practices more & is older/more experienced, my sense of color and taste level is far superior. I also dress much better than he does & I follow fashion and understand texture/material better (another stereotype about INFPs - that we dress worse). Both of us really like different foods/flavors, beauty/aesthetics, atmosphere and culture. My step-dad also loves language, and he picks up accents well & learns by hearing. I am much better with grammar and the written word though. I also express myself better verbally; my step-dad often gets frustrated when talking to people.

    When it comes to music, I am by far the bigger fan. I have a substantial physical and digital collection of music, and I love live music. My step-dad almost dislikes listening to music, but when he was younger he played guitar. This illustrates the focus on the process vs. focus on an end goal: My step-dad did not play guitar to learn to write songs or because he loves music, but he just enjoyed strumming it when hanging out with his friends. I have no interest in musical instruments except to create - I would like to write a song, not play existing ones. This shows how my step-dad, an ISFP, and I, an INFP, often have similar interests/behaviors on the surface, but different ways of experiencing them.

    Also, as I mentioned a bit in the list above, INFPs are not the only ones with causes. Most vegetarians and animal rights/environmental activists I've known are SP, and many people note that ISFPs often have a special connection to nature (being so sensory oriented). INFPs are not the only Fi-dom on a mission. My ISFP step dad gets much more gung ho when it comes to his beliefs than I do. Being action oriented, he "hits the pavement" so to speak without much thought. I tend to mull things over and form longterm goals to build up to, which delays my action.

    Oh yeah, and a lot of ISFPs are strange also. My step-dad is easily as odd as I am.
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